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This document is a page from a court transcript dated August 10, 2022, detailing the direct examination of a witness named Rodgers. Rodgers explains the protocol for logging passengers on Jeffrey Epstein's planes, stating that crew members often did not know passengers' names and would use the abbreviation "PAX" (for passenger) in the logbook. He clarifies that a name appearing in the logbook for the first time did not necessarily mean it was that individual's first flight, as they may have flown previously as an unidentified "PAX".
People (3)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Rodgers | Witness |
Mentioned in the header as the person undergoing direct examination.
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| Jeffrey |
Mentioned as someone who might introduce passengers to the crew once they got onboard. (line 2)
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| Mr. Epstein | Aircraft owner |
Mentioned in the context of his planes and passengers on them. (line 16)
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | company |
Appears at the bottom of the page, likely the court reporting agency that transcribed the proceedings.
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Relationships (2)
Rodgers discusses the procedures for logging passengers on "Mr. Epstein's planes," suggesting an employment or contractual relationship, likely as a pilot or crew member.
Key Quotes (3)
"Nobody told us who they were."Source
— Rodgers
(Answering why the crew did not always know the name of every passenger onboard.)
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"With the industry standard of "PAX," which is abbreviation for passenger."Source
— Rodgers
(Explaining how an unknown passenger's presence was indicated in the logbook.)
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"It might not be, because they could have been a PAX on the previous flight because we didn't know their name, and then maybe the next flight we find out who they are."Source
— Rodgers
(Explaining that the first appearance of a person's name in the logbook does not necessarily mean it was their first flight on one of Mr. Epstein's planes.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 122 of 262
LC8VMAX4 Rodgers - direct 1827
LC8VMAX4 Rodgers - direct 1827
1 the passengers were. So sometimes we might get introduced to
2 the passenger by Jeffrey once they got onboard.
3 Q. Did you always know the name of every passenger onboard?
4 A. No.
5 Q. Why not?
6 A. Nobody told us who they were.
7 Q. If there was a passenger onboard and you didn't know that
8 person's name, how did you indicate the presence of that person
9 in your logbook?
10 A. With the industry standard of "PAX," which is abbreviation
11 for passenger. And then later on we further change it from
12 that to either -- the gender, either male or female.
13 Q. I want to go now actually backing up.
14 So is the first time a person's name appears in this
15 logbook necessarily the first time that person was a passenger
16 on one of Mr. Epstein's planes?
17 A. It might not be, because they could have been a PAX on the
18 previous flight because we didn't know their name, and then
19 maybe the next flight we find out who they are.
20 Q. So you wouldn't go back and add in their name?
21 A. No.
22 Q. I'd like to turn now, please, to page 29 of Government
23 Exhibit 662. And there are numbers on the bottom.
24 A. Okay.
25 Q. I want to look at flight number 573, please. Can you
2 the passenger by Jeffrey once they got onboard.
3 Q. Did you always know the name of every passenger onboard?
4 A. No.
5 Q. Why not?
6 A. Nobody told us who they were.
7 Q. If there was a passenger onboard and you didn't know that
8 person's name, how did you indicate the presence of that person
9 in your logbook?
10 A. With the industry standard of "PAX," which is abbreviation
11 for passenger. And then later on we further change it from
12 that to either -- the gender, either male or female.
13 Q. I want to go now actually backing up.
14 So is the first time a person's name appears in this
15 logbook necessarily the first time that person was a passenger
16 on one of Mr. Epstein's planes?
17 A. It might not be, because they could have been a PAX on the
18 previous flight because we didn't know their name, and then
19 maybe the next flight we find out who they are.
20 Q. So you wouldn't go back and add in their name?
21 A. No.
22 Q. I'd like to turn now, please, to page 29 of Government
23 Exhibit 662. And there are numbers on the bottom.
24 A. Okay.
25 Q. I want to look at flight number 573, please. Can you
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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