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This document is a page from a court transcript dated February 24, 2022, showing the cross-examination of a witness named Berke by an attorney, Mr. Okula. Mr. Okula questions Berke about a hypothetical situation involving a suspended attorney, Catherine Conrad, serving as Juror No. 1. Berke repeatedly refuses to answer, calling the scenario 'far-fetched' and an attempt to make him speculate on an experience he's never had.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Berke | Witness |
A witness being cross-examined by Mr. Okula.
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| Catherine Conrad | Suspended attorney / Juror No. 1 |
Mentioned as a suspended attorney who is allegedly also Juror No. 1 in the trial.
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| Mr. Okula | Attorney |
The attorney conducting the cross-examination of the witness, Berke.
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| Judge | Judge |
Addressed by Mr. Okula at the conclusion of his questioning.
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| Name | Type | Context |
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | Company |
The court reporting agency that transcribed the proceeding, listed at the bottom of the page.
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Key Quotes (3)
"What you are ignoring is it's such a far-fetched idea that any citizen would come in here and lie to be a juror."Source
— Berke
(Responding to Mr. Okula's question about a suspended attorney serving on the jury, dismissing the premise of the question.)
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"You're asking me to speculate and give opinions about an experience I've never had."Source
— Berke
(Justifying his refusal to answer Mr. Okula's hypothetical question.)
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"Judge, I have no further questions for Mr. Berke."Source
— MR. OKULA
(Concluding his cross-examination of the witness.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 161 Filed 02/24/22 Page 17 of 117
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Berke - cross
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suspended attorney named Catherine Conrad, the same as
Juror No. 1?
A. I was never in a position where I needed to or had to make
decisions about the investigation. I don't understand that I'm
here as an expert witness. I can tell you as a matter of fact
what I knew, what I was told, the conversations I had, but I
really can't go beyond that, Mr. Okula.
Q. You're not going to answer my question? You've hired
private investigators many times as a lawyer, right?
A. I have.
Q. Are you unwilling to answer the question that I just asked
about what steps you would take if you learned that Catherine
Conrad, a suspended attorney, was in existence and you knew you
had Catherine Conrad sitting in seat number 1? Are you not
going to answer that question?
A. What you are ignoring is it's such a far-fetched idea that
any citizen would come in here and lie to be a juror. I have
never experienced it as a practicing lawyer. It never occurred
to me it happened in this trial, and it's not something I have
ever thought about it. When I've used investigators it's
because I'm defending someone in a criminal case or civil case
and I want to look at facts. You're asking me to speculate and
give opinions about an experience I've never had.
MR. OKULA: Judge, I have no further questions for Mr.
Berke.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
Berke - cross
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suspended attorney named Catherine Conrad, the same as
Juror No. 1?
A. I was never in a position where I needed to or had to make
decisions about the investigation. I don't understand that I'm
here as an expert witness. I can tell you as a matter of fact
what I knew, what I was told, the conversations I had, but I
really can't go beyond that, Mr. Okula.
Q. You're not going to answer my question? You've hired
private investigators many times as a lawyer, right?
A. I have.
Q. Are you unwilling to answer the question that I just asked
about what steps you would take if you learned that Catherine
Conrad, a suspended attorney, was in existence and you knew you
had Catherine Conrad sitting in seat number 1? Are you not
going to answer that question?
A. What you are ignoring is it's such a far-fetched idea that
any citizen would come in here and lie to be a juror. I have
never experienced it as a practicing lawyer. It never occurred
to me it happened in this trial, and it's not something I have
ever thought about it. When I've used investigators it's
because I'm defending someone in a criminal case or civil case
and I want to look at facts. You're asking me to speculate and
give opinions about an experience I've never had.
MR. OKULA: Judge, I have no further questions for Mr.
Berke.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
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