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Summary
This document is a transcript of an interview where Ghislaine Maxwell recounts her understanding of how a redacted woman became involved with Jeffrey Epstein around December 2000. Maxwell alleges this woman, who had a troubled past, was helped by Epstein to avoid an arrest warrant by being sent to Thailand, and subsequently became the primary recruiter of other masseuses for him, working with her boyfriend, Tony Figueroa. Maxwell asserts that this individual was the starting point for all subsequent masseuses who came to Epstein's house.
People (9)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| TODD BLANCHE | Interviewer/Lawyer |
Appears as the primary individual questioning Ghislaine Maxwell throughout the transcript.
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| GHISLAINE MAXWELL | Interviewee |
The individual being questioned, providing a narrative about a redacted person's involvement with Mr. Epstein.
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| [DOJ REDACTION] | Masseuse / Recruiter |
A redacted name of a woman who Maxwell claims was the first masseuse who then became responsible for bringing all sub...
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| Ron Eppinger | Pimp |
Described by Maxwell as the pimp of [DOJ REDACTION] who trained her from a young age.
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| Mr. Epstein |
The individual for whom [DOJ REDACTION] worked as a masseuse and recruiter. Maxwell claims he sent [DOJ REDACTION] to...
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| Tony | Boyfriend |
Mentioned as the boyfriend of [DOJ REDACTION] who assisted her in bringing people to Mr. Epstein's house.
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| LEAH SAFFIAN | Interviewer/Lawyer |
Speaks once to provide the full name of 'Tony'.
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| Tony Figueroa | Boyfriend |
The full name of [DOJ REDACTION]'s boyfriend, provided by Leah Saffian and confirmed by Ghislaine Maxwell.
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| DAVID MARKUS | Interviewer/Lawyer |
Speaks once to ask a clarifying question ('Underage?').
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| MAGNA LEGAL SERVICES | company |
Appears in the footer of the document.
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| DOJ | government agency |
Implied by the redaction label 'DOJ REDACTION', likely referring to the U.S. Department of Justice.
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Timeline (5 events)
2000-12
Mr. Epstein met [DOJ REDACTION], who came to his house as a masseuse.
His house
c. 2001-2002
[DOJ REDACTION] broke up with her fiancé, took up with a local drug dealer in Tallahassee, and became a 'druggie'.
Tallahassee
c. 2001-2002
[DOJ REDACTION] was arrested for theft and had a warrant out for her arrest.
c. 2001-2002
Mr. Epstein sent [DOJ REDACTION] to Thailand to help her avoid the arrest warrant and to get a massage therapy license.
Thailand
c. 2001-2002 onwards
[DOJ REDACTION] and her boyfriend, Tony Figueroa, began bringing every subsequent masseuse to Mr. Epstein's house.
His house
Locations (2)
| Location | Context |
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Mentioned as a place where [DOJ REDACTION] lived and became involved with a drug dealer.
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Mentioned as the country where Mr. Epstein sent [DOJ REDACTION] to get a massage therapy license and avoid a warrant ...
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Relationships (4)
Maxwell is the interviewee and Blanche is the interviewer in what appears to be a legal deposition or interview.
Maxwell describes [DOJ REDACTION] as initially being a masseuse for Mr. Epstein, who later helped her avoid arrest and tasked her with recruiting other masseuses.
Maxwell claims Ron Eppinger was the 'pimp' of [DOJ REDACTION] who 'trained' her from the age of 14 or 15.
Maxwell identifies Tony Figueroa as the boyfriend of [DOJ REDACTION] and states they worked together to recruit masseuses for Mr. Epstein.
Key Quotes (3)
"I think because in December of 2001, he met DOJ REDACTION. And I think DOJ REDACTION was responsible for that in its entirety."Source
— GHISLAINE MAXWELL
(Explaining why she believes the events started in the early 2000s.)
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"She then called Epstein to -- to have help avoiding the warrant for her arrest, and he sent her to Thailand to get a massage therapy license."Source
— GHISLAINE MAXWELL
(Describing how Mr. Epstein allegedly helped [DOJ REDACTION] with her legal troubles.)
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"Everyone -- every single person who came to his house, came through DOJ REDACTION and her boyfriend, Tony, and then whoever else underneath her. And that is how it started."Source
— GHISLAINE MAXWELL
(Asserting that [DOJ REDACTION] and her boyfriend were the sole channel for recruiting other masseuses.)
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asking me, I believe started in the 2000s.
TODD BLANCHE: In the 2000 time period?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yeah. 2000.
TODD BLANCHE: Why do you -- why do you think --
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: 2000.
TODD BLANCHE: Like what -- what in your mind makes you think that that's the time that it started?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think because in December of 2001, he met DOJ REDACTION. And I think DOJ REDACTION was responsible for that in its entirety.
And the reason I believe that, so this -- she -- she was a self-confessed having been sexually abused as a young girl and was trained -- her words I'm quoting now, not mine, in all the arts of whatever that is, the sex program by a man called Ron Eppinger, who was her pimp from when she was 14, I believe, or 15, I don't know.
And in her book describes him training her to be what every man wants in all its manners, fellatio and everything else. I believe that then what happened was that he met her, and she came as a masseuse to his house, in December of 2001 is when I
TODD BLANCHE: In the 2000 time period?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yeah. 2000.
TODD BLANCHE: Why do you -- why do you think --
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: 2000.
TODD BLANCHE: Like what -- what in your mind makes you think that that's the time that it started?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think because in December of 2001, he met DOJ REDACTION. And I think DOJ REDACTION was responsible for that in its entirety.
And the reason I believe that, so this -- she -- she was a self-confessed having been sexually abused as a young girl and was trained -- her words I'm quoting now, not mine, in all the arts of whatever that is, the sex program by a man called Ron Eppinger, who was her pimp from when she was 14, I believe, or 15, I don't know.
And in her book describes him training her to be what every man wants in all its manners, fellatio and everything else. I believe that then what happened was that he met her, and she came as a masseuse to his house, in December of 2001 is when I
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think it started.
Now, what their relationship was or what happened with them in that early period of time, I cannot say. What I can say is that he liked her and she started to travel with him at that time period.
I believe -- I know, then, what happened was that she -- when she first started to see him or first came into his orbit as his masseuse or whatever, she was engaged to be married and wearing an engagement ring, and was living with her fianc?.
She broke up after a few months, with her fianc?, and took up with the local drug dealer. So let's say after four or five months of -- in the time period when she was seeing Epstein, let's say we're now May, June of 2002 or is it 2000. I can't remember.
From whenever she hits the -- whatever that is if that's 2000. I think it's 2000. I'm sorry. I think it's when she met him. December of 2000. So -- so then you go through -- I don't remember. You'll have to look.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. I'm not holding you to exact dates. I'm not --
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I mean, I'm just trying to -- I'm giving the --
Now, what their relationship was or what happened with them in that early period of time, I cannot say. What I can say is that he liked her and she started to travel with him at that time period.
I believe -- I know, then, what happened was that she -- when she first started to see him or first came into his orbit as his masseuse or whatever, she was engaged to be married and wearing an engagement ring, and was living with her fianc?.
She broke up after a few months, with her fianc?, and took up with the local drug dealer. So let's say after four or five months of -- in the time period when she was seeing Epstein, let's say we're now May, June of 2002 or is it 2000. I can't remember.
From whenever she hits the -- whatever that is if that's 2000. I think it's 2000. I'm sorry. I think it's when she met him. December of 2000. So -- so then you go through -- I don't remember. You'll have to look.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. I'm not holding you to exact dates. I'm not --
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I mean, I'm just trying to -- I'm giving the --
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TODD BLANCHE: -- I appreciate.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So then I think -- so she -- she takes up with the local drug dealer and she becomes druggie, druggie. Like, you know, how druggies -- well, maybe you don't. I live with a lot in Tallahassee. They become even more unreliable than normal.
And at some point, she's now working somewhere else. He stopped seeing her, because he doesn't like people who do drugs. And I think that not seeing her lasted five or six months. And in that period of time, she got arrested for theft, and she had a warrant out for her arrest.
Now, this I've pieced together because this piece I didn't know. She then called Epstein to -- to have help avoiding the warrant for her arrest, and he sent her to Thailand to get a massage therapy license. This is the bit that I guess. This is the bit that I extrapolated.
In the period of time from when she came back to when she left, he asked her to replace herself as his masseuse or whatever -- whatever she was doing, and she brought the first replacement for her. That would've been one of the accusers in my case, I think, would've been DOJ REDACTION.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So then I think -- so she -- she takes up with the local drug dealer and she becomes druggie, druggie. Like, you know, how druggies -- well, maybe you don't. I live with a lot in Tallahassee. They become even more unreliable than normal.
And at some point, she's now working somewhere else. He stopped seeing her, because he doesn't like people who do drugs. And I think that not seeing her lasted five or six months. And in that period of time, she got arrested for theft, and she had a warrant out for her arrest.
Now, this I've pieced together because this piece I didn't know. She then called Epstein to -- to have help avoiding the warrant for her arrest, and he sent her to Thailand to get a massage therapy license. This is the bit that I guess. This is the bit that I extrapolated.
In the period of time from when she came back to when she left, he asked her to replace herself as his masseuse or whatever -- whatever she was doing, and she brought the first replacement for her. That would've been one of the accusers in my case, I think, would've been DOJ REDACTION.
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And that -- and then everyone who came subsequent to DOJ REDACTION or simultaneously, if she wasn't the first, I don't know. Everyone -- every single person who came to his house, came through DOJ REDACTION and her boyfriend, Tony, and then whoever else underneath her. And that is how it started.
TODD BLANCHE: So before her --
LEAH SAFFIAN: Tony Figueroa.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Tony Figueroa is her boyfriend.
TODD BLANCHE: Before her -- so now going back in the '90s. You don't believe that Mr. Epstein was abusing masseuses?
DAVID MARKUS: Underage?
TODD BLANCHE: Or over age? I mean, I think -- well, I'm using abuse in the broadest sense of word, because I'm assuming that you -- you -- you -- you said that you have no idea of the year -- you -- you always assumed the masseuses were over age, right?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I did.
TODD BLANCHE: So when I'm talking about abuse, I'm even talking about an adult masseuse who comes in to give a massage and is told to take off their clothes, told they're not going to get paid if
TODD BLANCHE: So before her --
LEAH SAFFIAN: Tony Figueroa.
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Tony Figueroa is her boyfriend.
TODD BLANCHE: Before her -- so now going back in the '90s. You don't believe that Mr. Epstein was abusing masseuses?
DAVID MARKUS: Underage?
TODD BLANCHE: Or over age? I mean, I think -- well, I'm using abuse in the broadest sense of word, because I'm assuming that you -- you -- you -- you said that you have no idea of the year -- you -- you always assumed the masseuses were over age, right?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I did.
TODD BLANCHE: So when I'm talking about abuse, I'm even talking about an adult masseuse who comes in to give a massage and is told to take off their clothes, told they're not going to get paid if
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