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who's a famous journalist, actually is a very well
known journalist.
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TODD BLANCHE: Oh, okay. That was
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(Inaudible).
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And when I -- and he had -- he was friends
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL:
and I would
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with the Barings, Barings Bank and he had like, sort
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sometime
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of --
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TODD BLANCHE: Understood.
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TODD BLANCHE: That was, you're talking
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL:
no, it's when we
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about --
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were
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Before he met me.
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TODD BLANCHE: Okay.
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TODD BLANCHE: Before, so in the
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: '80s.
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TODD BLANCHE: '80s. Okay.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. He was dating
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Eva Andersson, Miss Sweden, I think. I don't know
when she became Miss Sweden.
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TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So earlier when you
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said that he met them later -
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
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TODD BLANCHE: -- you think he may have
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I'm not going to
say together, but when -- how about this? When I was
his employee, that's a bit better.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So now moving back
to the 2000s, did there come a time when Mr. Epstein
met Prince Andrew?
GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
TODD BLANCHE: And others in the
Royal Family or just Prince Andrew as, far as you
know?
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met some members of the Royal Family or certainly
British high society.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, so as
as much
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about the Royal Family, but certainly high society.
TODD BLANCHE: Okay.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And the reason why I
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as I can piece it together, all right, first of all
let's just state, I did not introduce him to
Prince Andrew. I did not introduce him to Prince
Andrew or to Sarah Ferguson. That is a flat untruth.
I'll start with that.
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know this is because, sometime we can this is a
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So now I'm going to tell you how he did
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documentable thing. Docu -- whatever. There's a
photograph that can give you the date, because I
don't remember what the date is of this, so there's
something that will peg whatever this date is. I
don't remember when that is.
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actually meet him. So I -- if you find me that
photograph, I can date that time when he met
Princess Diana at that event. I--and based on
that, I'll be able to tell you if it's pre or post
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Epstein went to London without me. He
often went everywhere without me, but he was in
London without me, which was decently unusual because
London's my hometown.
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that event, because I haven't looked it up and I've
never bothered to check.
So Lynn Forester, who was a client or some
type of client, or I think she actually tried to date
him or might have dated him, for the record. She was
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But anyway, he went without me. And he
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in -- do you want to ask me something?
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went to a big event in, I think it was in the
anyway, it was a big event. It's on it's on
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TODD BLANCHE: No, go ahead.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. She was
she
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it's on it's on the news. It's like a -- there's
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had a house or she rented a house in the Vineyard. I
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photographs of it. And he, I don't know if he sat
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think it was in the Vineyard or Nantucket, I can't
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with Diana or he met Diana and he'd already met her.
I don't know, but this, I believe was organized by
Rosa.
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remember now which one it was. It was one of those.
It was either in Nantucket or the Vineyard, and
invited Epstein to go, and I believe that's when he
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And so there's -- I don't know if she was
being set up as a date for him, maybe because she
I don't want to speak bad of Diana, but -- I'm not
going to do that.
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met Prince Andrew.
However, I believe that before that event,
he had gone to the Bahamas and had hung out with
Sarah Ferguson. And Sarah had called Epstein and had
arranged with Lynn, or I don't know. I don't know.
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TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So that was
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Now I'm speculating. Anyway, long and short, he met
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pre-meeting you.
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Andrew up there.
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GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No, that was
that
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TODD BLANCHE: And I'm not holding you to
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event happened when we were
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