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This document is a court transcript from August 10, 2022, capturing a sidebar discussion between attorneys and the judge. The attorneys are debating how to question a witness about her reasons for returning to visit Jeffrey Epstein in New Mexico, with the court ruling that testimony about what the witness's mother said is inadmissible hearsay. An attorney then proposes an alternative line of questioning focused on the witness's own feelings to circumvent the objection.
People (7)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| MS. MENNINGER | Speaker (likely an attorney) |
Speaking to the judge about a hearsay issue related to a conversation between a witness and her mother.
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| MS. COMEY | Speaker (likely an attorney) |
Clarifying to the judge that the purpose of questioning is to explain the witness's actions, not to establish the tru...
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| Jeffrey Epstein | Subject of discussion |
Mentioned as the person a witness felt uncomfortable around but was willing to see again.
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| THE COURT | Speaker (Judge) |
Ruling on the hearsay objection, stating that eliciting what the mother said about Maxwell's presence would be for th...
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| Maxwell | Subject of discussion |
Mentioned as someone the witness's mother allegedly said would be present, which is the subject of the hearsay dispute.
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| MS. MOE | Speaker (likely an attorney) |
Proposing a more precise line of questioning to avoid the hearsay issue, focusing on the witness's feelings about goi...
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| A. Farmer | Witness (implied) |
Named in the header as the witness undergoing direct examination.
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | Company |
Listed at the bottom of the page as the court reporting service.
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Timeline (2 events)
2022-08-10
A legal argument took place regarding a hearsay objection during the direct examination of witness A. Farmer.
Courtroom (implied)
A witness traveled to New Mexico, a trip which is the subject of the court's discussion.
New Mexico
Locations (1)
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Mentioned as the destination the witness traveled to, and the subject of proposed questioning.
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Relationships (5)
The witness felt uncomfortable around Jeffrey Epstein but was willing to go see him again.
The witness was allegedly told by her mother that Maxwell would be present at a location with Epstein.
Ms. Menninger addresses the judge as 'Your Honor' while making a legal argument.
Ms. Comey addresses the judge as 'Your Honor' while clarifying a legal point.
Key Quotes (3)
"Your Honor, just to clarify, the jury just heard this witness say she felt uncomfortable around Jeffrey Epstein; and that she knew something was wrong. The point of this is not to give the truth of what the mother said, but to explain why she was willing to go back to see Jeffrey Epstein again."Source
— MS. COMEY
(Arguing against a hearsay objection by explaining the purpose of the testimony is to show the witness's state of mind.)
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"You're trying to elicit that her mother told her that Maxwell would be there, which is for the truth and hearsay."Source
— THE COURT
(Explaining the ruling that the proposed line of questioning would introduce inadmissible hearsay.)
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"I think the questions would be, Did you feel comfortable going to New Mexico? Why did you feel comfortable going to New Mexico? ... It's not offered for the truth, it's to explain the progress of events and why she would feel comfortable doing something like that."Source
— MS. MOE
(Proposing an alternative line of questioning to avoid the hearsay objection.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 759 Filed 08/10/22 Page 45 of 267 2073
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A. Farmer - direct
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A. Farmer - direct
1 her.
2 MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, just to the extent it's
3 why she went, it's, I understand after the conversation with
4 the mother, I went to New Mexico. But if it's the content from
5 the mother to her, that's where it gets into the hearsay piece.
6 MS. COMEY: Your Honor, just to clarify, the jury just
7 heard this witness say she felt uncomfortable around Jeffrey
8 Epstein; and that she knew something was wrong. The point of
9 this is not to give the truth of what the mother said, but to
10 explain why she was willing to go back to see Jeffrey Epstein
11 again. That is all we're trying to elicit.
12 THE COURT: You're trying to elicit that her mother
13 told her that Maxwell would be there, which is for the truth
14 and hearsay. In any event, because it is central to the
15 question coming in as hearsay, there's a 403 issue. I think
16 you can get this -- you can get who was there, etc., but not
17 what her mother told her for the truth, which is, I think,
18 plainly what you're trying to do.
19 MS. MOE: Your Honor, I can be more precise.
20 I think the questions would be, Did you feel
21 comfortable going to New Mexico? Why did you feel comfortable
22 going to New Mexico? And then we wouldn't object to a limiting
23 instruction. It's not offered for the truth, it's to explain
24 the progress of events and why she would feel comfortable doing
25 something like that.
2 MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, just to the extent it's
3 why she went, it's, I understand after the conversation with
4 the mother, I went to New Mexico. But if it's the content from
5 the mother to her, that's where it gets into the hearsay piece.
6 MS. COMEY: Your Honor, just to clarify, the jury just
7 heard this witness say she felt uncomfortable around Jeffrey
8 Epstein; and that she knew something was wrong. The point of
9 this is not to give the truth of what the mother said, but to
10 explain why she was willing to go back to see Jeffrey Epstein
11 again. That is all we're trying to elicit.
12 THE COURT: You're trying to elicit that her mother
13 told her that Maxwell would be there, which is for the truth
14 and hearsay. In any event, because it is central to the
15 question coming in as hearsay, there's a 403 issue. I think
16 you can get this -- you can get who was there, etc., but not
17 what her mother told her for the truth, which is, I think,
18 plainly what you're trying to do.
19 MS. MOE: Your Honor, I can be more precise.
20 I think the questions would be, Did you feel
21 comfortable going to New Mexico? Why did you feel comfortable
22 going to New Mexico? And then we wouldn't object to a limiting
23 instruction. It's not offered for the truth, it's to explain
24 the progress of events and why she would feel comfortable doing
25 something like that.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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