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Summary
This document is a court transcript from August 10, 2022, capturing a conversation between a judge (THE COURT) and an attorney (Mr. Rohrbach). The judge expresses concern about potential improper communication of testimony from a witness named Jane to her brother, suggesting a violation of the 'spirit' of a court rule. The judge recommends a full review of text and email communications and an interview with Jane to ensure there are no other conduits of information.
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Carolyn | Witness |
Mentioned in the header as the subject of a cross-examination: "Carolyn - cross".
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| Jane | Witness/Source of information |
Mentioned by the Court as someone who should be interviewed regarding her testimony and potential communication with ...
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| Jane's brother |
Mentioned as a potential recipient of information about Jane's testimony.
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| MR. ROHRBACH | Attorney |
A speaker in the transcript, addressing the Court as "your Honor".
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| THE COURT | Judge |
A speaker in the transcript, addressed as "your Honor".
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | company |
Listed at the bottom of the page as the court reporting agency.
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| government | government agency |
Mentioned by the Court: "I don't think the government did anything wrong."
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Timeline (1 events)
2022-08-10
A discussion during a court proceeding regarding the potential for improper communication between witnesses, specifically concerning Jane's testimony being passed to her brother.
Courtroom (implied)
Relationships (2)
The document explicitly refers to "Jane's testimony to the brother," indicating a sibling relationship.
Mr. Rohrbach addresses the Court as "your Honor," which is standard courtroom protocol for an attorney addressing a judge.
Key Quotes (3)
"I would think you need to have an interview with Jane, as well, to see if you're getting the same information from her."Source
— THE COURT
(Instructing on the need to investigate potential improper communication of testimony.)
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"I think my hypo about if somebody passed the transcript would certainly go to a violation of the spirit of the rule and not the text."Source
— THE COURT
(Discussing the legal nuances of a potential rule violation regarding witness testimony.)
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"I understand from the notes that it was communicated to the witnesses not to speak to other witnesses, but somehow this witness didn't understand that to mean his sister."Source
— THE COURT
(Expressing surprise that a witness may have misunderstood instructions about not communicating with others.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 753 Filed 08/10/22 Page 155 of 264 1581
LC7VMAX5 Carolyn - cross
LC7VMAX5 Carolyn - cross
1 explored in your cross-examination, which is under oath. But I
2 do think in advance of that, we need a full understanding which
3 I think includes making sure you have every text and email
4 communication. I would think you need to have an interview
5 with Jane, as well, to see if you're getting the same
6 information from her. And I think you need to make sure that
7 there are no other conduits of information regarding Jane's
8 testimony to the brother.
9 MR. ROHRBACH: Yes, your Honor.
10 THE COURT: Okay. And I've started to look at the law
11 too. I think it's unlikely we're going to get to a breach of
12 the text of the rule. I think my hypo about if somebody passed
13 the transcript would certainly go to a violation of the spirit
14 of the rule and not the text. And there may be some further
15 version of full communication of her testimony, especially a
16 witness who's being put on solely to provide prior consistent
17 statements.
18 I don't think the government did anything wrong. I'm
19 a little shocked that this wasn't fully drilled into these
20 witnesses just as a matter of best practice. I understand from
21 the notes that it was communicated to the witnesses not to
22 speak to other witnesses, but somehow this witness didn't
23 understand that to mean his sister. But here we are.
24 MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, on that point, we would
25 just say that the notes from today reflect that the witness
2 do think in advance of that, we need a full understanding which
3 I think includes making sure you have every text and email
4 communication. I would think you need to have an interview
5 with Jane, as well, to see if you're getting the same
6 information from her. And I think you need to make sure that
7 there are no other conduits of information regarding Jane's
8 testimony to the brother.
9 MR. ROHRBACH: Yes, your Honor.
10 THE COURT: Okay. And I've started to look at the law
11 too. I think it's unlikely we're going to get to a breach of
12 the text of the rule. I think my hypo about if somebody passed
13 the transcript would certainly go to a violation of the spirit
14 of the rule and not the text. And there may be some further
15 version of full communication of her testimony, especially a
16 witness who's being put on solely to provide prior consistent
17 statements.
18 I don't think the government did anything wrong. I'm
19 a little shocked that this wasn't fully drilled into these
20 witnesses just as a matter of best practice. I understand from
21 the notes that it was communicated to the witnesses not to
22 speak to other witnesses, but somehow this witness didn't
23 understand that to mean his sister. But here we are.
24 MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, on that point, we would
25 just say that the notes from today reflect that the witness
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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