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Summary
This document is a court transcript from February 15, 2012, detailing the direct examination of a witness named Conrad. The questioning focuses on allegations that Conrad was dishonest during jury selection (voir dire) by deliberately omitting that she was an attorney and by providing a false address (Bronxville) to Judge Pauley. Conrad admits to the 'omission' of her legal background but distinguishes it from a lie, while the questioner challenges her credibility and the truthfulness of her statements under oath.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Conrad | Witness |
The person being questioned (giving testimony) throughout the document, referred to as 'A' and 'Ms. Conrad'.
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| MR. OKULA | Attorney |
Makes an objection on page 141.
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| Judge Pauley | Judge |
Mentioned as the judge who conducted the voir dire and asked the witness questions about her residence.
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| PAUL M. DAUGERDAS | Defendant |
Named in the case title 'UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,'.
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Organizations (3)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| UNITED STATES OF AMERICA | government agency |
The plaintiff in the case, as seen in the document header.
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| THE COURT | government agency |
Referenced throughout the testimony as the judicial body being addressed or allegedly misled.
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS | company |
Listed at the bottom of the document, likely the court reporting service that transcribed the proceedings.
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Timeline (2 events)
Prior to 2012-02-15
A jury selection process where Judge Pauley questioned potential jurors, including Conrad. During this event, Conrad omitted that she was an attorney and provided information about her residence that is the subject of the testimony.
Courtroom
Locations (3)
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Mentioned as the location where the witness, Conrad, allegedly claimed to live.
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A location the questioner claims Conrad told Judge Pauley she lived in. Conrad refutes its existence, stating 'There ...
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The location the questioner clarifies Conrad told Judge Pauley she lived, which Conrad confirms.
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Relationships (2)
The document is a transcript of an adversarial legal questioning, where the questioner is probing the witness, Conrad, about her truthfulness and potential perjury.
The testimony describes Judge Pauley's role in questioning Conrad during the voir dire process for jury selection.
Key Quotes (6)
"I did not reveal that I was an attorney."Source
— Conrad
(Responding to a question about whether she deliberately decided to mislead the Court.)
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"I omitted the fact that I was an attorney."Source
— Conrad
(Admitting to not disclosing her profession during voir dire.)
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"It was an omission."Source
— Conrad
(Distinguishing her action from an active lie when asked if she lied to the Court.)
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"Okay. So there's a distinction in your mind between omitting a truth and lying, is that correct?"Source
— Questioner
(Pressing the witness on her distinction between omitting information and lying.)
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Quote #4
"Well, didn't you tell Judge Pauley that you lived in Bronx Village in Westchester?"Source
— Questioner
(Accusing the witness of lying about her residence to the judge during jury selection.)
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Quote #5
"There is no such thing as Bronx Village."Source
— Conrad
(Denying the existence of the location she was accused of claiming as her residence.)
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Quote #6
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Case 6:10-cr-00888-WHP Document 646-10 Filed 08/22/12 Page 720 of 767
A-5645
A-5645
February 15, 2012
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 141
1 A. Exactly. Yes. And that's what we did.
2 Q. So you knew from the outset of this trial that there was a
3 connection between speaking the truth on voir dire and
4 ferreting out jurors who might have biases, didn't you, then?
5 MR. OKULA: Objection, your Honor.
6 THE COURT: Overruled.
7 A. Can you please repeat that?
8 Q. You understood based on what Judge Pauley told you in voir
9 dire that there was a connection between speaking the truth in
10 answer to what you were being asked and the ability of the
11 Court to ferret out biases or other things that might make a
12 juror unsuitable?
13 A. Yes, there is a nexus.
14 Q. There is a nexus?
15 A. Mm-hmm.
16 Q. And yet you deliberately decided to defy the Court, isn't
17 that correct?
18 A. If you want to mischaracterize it like that.
19 Q. I don't want to mischaracterize anything. I want you to
20 tell me whether you deliberately decided to mislead the Court
21 here.
22 A. I did not reveal that I was an attorney.
23 Q. That was not my question, ma'am.
24 A. Then please rephrase it.
25 Q. Did you make a deliberate decision
1 A. Exactly. Yes. And that's what we did.
2 Q. So you knew from the outset of this trial that there was a
3 connection between speaking the truth on voir dire and
4 ferreting out jurors who might have biases, didn't you, then?
5 MR. OKULA: Objection, your Honor.
6 THE COURT: Overruled.
7 A. Can you please repeat that?
8 Q. You understood based on what Judge Pauley told you in voir
9 dire that there was a connection between speaking the truth in
10 answer to what you were being asked and the ability of the
11 Court to ferret out biases or other things that might make a
12 juror unsuitable?
13 A. Yes, there is a nexus.
14 Q. There is a nexus?
15 A. Mm-hmm.
16 Q. And yet you deliberately decided to defy the Court, isn't
17 that correct?
18 A. If you want to mischaracterize it like that.
19 Q. I don't want to mischaracterize anything. I want you to
20 tell me whether you deliberately decided to mislead the Court
21 here.
22 A. I did not reveal that I was an attorney.
23 Q. That was not my question, ma'am.
24 A. Then please rephrase it.
25 Q. Did you make a deliberate decision
C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 142
1 to lie to this Court?
2 A. I did omit the fact that I had a JD.
3 Q. Was that the only fact you omitted?
4 A. No.
5 Q. We're going to come back to that, but right now I'd like to
6 try to get an answer to my question. Did you make the
7 deliberate decision I'm going to lie to the Court?
8 A. Not at first.
9 Q. Not at first.
10 A. I --
11 Q. When did you make the deliberate decision that you were
12 going to lie to the Court?
13 A. It was omission.
14 Q. So you did not tell any active lie to the Court, is that
15 correct?
16 A. I'm not really sure.
17 Q. Is that because you don't remember what you said or because
18 you don't know the difference between truth and lie?
19 A. Of course I know the difference, and the character
20 assassination is, you know, well done, but the fact of the
21 matter is that you're here to discredit me and to discredit the
22 fact that myself and eleven other jurors convicted your client
23 across the board.
24 Q. Ms. Conrad, when did you make the deliberate decision to
25 lie to the Court?
26 A. I don't recall.
1 to lie to this Court?
2 A. I did omit the fact that I had a JD.
3 Q. Was that the only fact you omitted?
4 A. No.
5 Q. We're going to come back to that, but right now I'd like to
6 try to get an answer to my question. Did you make the
7 deliberate decision I'm going to lie to the Court?
8 A. Not at first.
9 Q. Not at first.
10 A. I --
11 Q. When did you make the deliberate decision that you were
12 going to lie to the Court?
13 A. It was omission.
14 Q. So you did not tell any active lie to the Court, is that
15 correct?
16 A. I'm not really sure.
17 Q. Is that because you don't remember what you said or because
18 you don't know the difference between truth and lie?
19 A. Of course I know the difference, and the character
20 assassination is, you know, well done, but the fact of the
21 matter is that you're here to discredit me and to discredit the
22 fact that myself and eleven other jurors convicted your client
23 across the board.
24 Q. Ms. Conrad, when did you make the deliberate decision to
25 lie to the Court?
26 A. I don't recall.
C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 143
1 Q. Was it during the voir dire?
2 A. I don't recall.
3 Q. Was it before you showed up for court the first day?
4 A. No, I don't think so.
5 Q. Was it after Judge Pauley told you that you had to speak
6 the truth?
7 A. I don't recall, sir.
8 Q. In response to what question did you make the decision to
9 lie to the Court?
10 A. I didn't lie.
11 Q. You did not lie?
12 A. I omitted the fact that I was an attorney.
13 Q. I just want to make sure I heard you right. You did not
14 lie under oath, is that correct?
15 A. In my mind I didn't. I omitted the fact that I had a JD.
16 Q. And that was not a lie in your mind?
17 A. It was an omission.
18 Q. Is it a lie?
19 A. You're the evidence professor.
20 Q. Did you lie to the Court --
21 A. I omitted.
22 Q. Okay. So there's a distinction in your mind between
23 omitting a truth and lying, is that correct?
24 A. I'm not sure.
25 Q. Well, is the lie that you, or the omission that you
1 Q. Was it during the voir dire?
2 A. I don't recall.
3 Q. Was it before you showed up for court the first day?
4 A. No, I don't think so.
5 Q. Was it after Judge Pauley told you that you had to speak
6 the truth?
7 A. I don't recall, sir.
8 Q. In response to what question did you make the decision to
9 lie to the Court?
10 A. I didn't lie.
11 Q. You did not lie?
12 A. I omitted the fact that I was an attorney.
13 Q. I just want to make sure I heard you right. You did not
14 lie under oath, is that correct?
15 A. In my mind I didn't. I omitted the fact that I had a JD.
16 Q. And that was not a lie in your mind?
17 A. It was an omission.
18 Q. Is it a lie?
19 A. You're the evidence professor.
20 Q. Did you lie to the Court --
21 A. I omitted.
22 Q. Okay. So there's a distinction in your mind between
23 omitting a truth and lying, is that correct?
24 A. I'm not sure.
25 Q. Well, is the lie that you, or the omission that you
C2FFDAU4 Conrad - direct Page 144
1 remember an omission about being a lawyer?
2 A. I don't know what that question means, sir.
3 Q. Well, let me try another question. Do you remember that
4 the very first question that Judge Pauley asked you was where
5 do you live.
6 A. Yes. And we had to, I believe, state the county.
7 Q. Okay, and in answer to the very first question that Judge
8 Pauley asked you, you told a deliberate lie to Judge Pauley,
9 isn't that true, ma'am?
10 A. No. I don't know what you're talking about.
11 Q. Well, didn't you tell Judge Pauley that you lived in Bronx
12 Village in Westchester?
13 A. There is no such thing as Bronx Village.
14 Q. Well, that's what the transcript says. Did you tell Judge
15 Pauley that you lived in Bronxville in Westchester?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And that's a lie, wasn't it?
18 A. No, it's my official address.
19 Q. Ma'am, Judge Pauley didn't ask you what your official
20 address is, he asked you where you live, right?
21 A. Anyone can have more than one residence.
22 Q. Did he ask you where you lived?
23 A. I don't remember the exact question. It might have been --
24 no, it was, you had to give your county. No, he didn't ask.
25 No, I remember that.
1 remember an omission about being a lawyer?
2 A. I don't know what that question means, sir.
3 Q. Well, let me try another question. Do you remember that
4 the very first question that Judge Pauley asked you was where
5 do you live.
6 A. Yes. And we had to, I believe, state the county.
7 Q. Okay, and in answer to the very first question that Judge
8 Pauley asked you, you told a deliberate lie to Judge Pauley,
9 isn't that true, ma'am?
10 A. No. I don't know what you're talking about.
11 Q. Well, didn't you tell Judge Pauley that you lived in Bronx
12 Village in Westchester?
13 A. There is no such thing as Bronx Village.
14 Q. Well, that's what the transcript says. Did you tell Judge
15 Pauley that you lived in Bronxville in Westchester?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And that's a lie, wasn't it?
18 A. No, it's my official address.
19 Q. Ma'am, Judge Pauley didn't ask you what your official
20 address is, he asked you where you live, right?
21 A. Anyone can have more than one residence.
22 Q. Did he ask you where you lived?
23 A. I don't remember the exact question. It might have been --
24 no, it was, you had to give your county. No, he didn't ask.
25 No, I remember that.
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