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Investigative document / book excerpt or transcript
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Summary
This document appears to be a page from a book or a transcript of an interview included in House Oversight materials (Bates stamped HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_015309). It details a philosophical conversation between a narrator and spiritual teacher Ram Dass. They discuss the nature of the universe, reinterpreting 'conspiracy' as 'natural law,' the necessity of suffering (referencing William Blake), and the behavioral implications of believing in reincarnation.
People (3)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Ram Dass | Spiritual Teacher / Subject |
Being interviewed or conversing with the narrator about philosophy, conspiracy, and reincarnation.
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| Narrator/Author | Interviewer |
Unnamed in text, but asks Ram Dass questions about conspiracy theories and suffering; mentions listening to a tape of...
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| William Blake | Poet/Artist |
Quoted by the narrator regarding the concept of 'joy and woe'.
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| House Oversight Committee |
Implied by the Bates stamp 'HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_015309' at the bottom of the page.
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Relationships (1)
Narrator asks questions; Ram Dass answers; Narrator mentions playing back a tape of the conversation.
Key Quotes (3)
"I'm just involved in a much greater conspiracy... You can't grasp the size of the conspiracy I understand--but there's no conspirator--it's the wrong word. That's why I say it's just natural law. It is all perfect."Source
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"I think that suffering is part of man's condition, and that's what the incarnation is about, and that's what the human plane is."Source
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"if you believed in reincarnation, you would never ask a question like that."Source
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like a miracle, which is merely because of our very narrow concept of how
the universe works.”
the universe works.”
Ram Dass knew of my involvement with conspiracy theory. “I'm just
involved in a much greater conspiracy,” he continued. “You can't grasp
the size of the conspiracy I understand--but there's no conspirator--it's the
wrong word. That's why I say it's just natural law. It is all perfect.”
involved in a much greater conspiracy,” he continued. “You can't grasp
the size of the conspiracy I understand--but there's no conspirator--it's the
wrong word. That's why I say it's just natural law. It is all perfect.”
“Would you agree with the concept--what William Blake said, that
humans were created 'for joy and woe'--the implication of which is that
there will always be suffering?”
humans were created 'for joy and woe'--the implication of which is that
there will always be suffering?”
“I think that suffering is part of man's condition, and that's what
the incarnation is about, and that's what the human plane is.”
the incarnation is about, and that's what the human plane is.”
So I asked Ram Dass, “If you and I were to exchange philosophies--
if I believed in reincarnation and you didn't--how do you think our
behavior would change?” He paused for a moment. “Well,” he said, “if
you believed in reincarnation, you would never ask a question like that.”
if I believed in reincarnation and you didn't--how do you think our
behavior would change?” He paused for a moment. “Well,” he said, “if
you believed in reincarnation, you would never ask a question like that.”
And then his low chuckle of amusement and surprise blossomed
into an uproarious belly laugh of delight and triumph as he savored the
implications of his own Zen answer. I would find myself playing that
segment of the tape with his bell-shaped spasm of laughter over and over
again, like a favorite piece of music.
into an uproarious belly laugh of delight and triumph as he savored the
implications of his own Zen answer. I would find myself playing that
segment of the tape with his bell-shaped spasm of laughter over and over
again, like a favorite piece of music.
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