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Document Information

Type: Interview transcript / blog post printout (house oversight committee document)
File Size: 2.54 MB
Summary

This document is a page from an interview transcript or blog post by Clarisse Thorn featuring Richard Berkowitz, an AIDS activist and subject of the documentary 'Sex Positive.' The text details how Thorn connected with Berkowitz after reviewing the film, their meeting in New York City, and begins an interview regarding Berkowitz's history in the gay bathhouse culture, BDSM, and sex work. The document bears a 'HOUSE_OVERSIGHT' Bates stamp, indicating it was collected as part of a congressional investigation, likely related to broader inquiries into networks or individuals associated with the Epstein case, though Epstein is not mentioned on this specific page.

People (3)

Name Role Context
Richard Berkowitz Interviewee / Activist
Described as 'Star of Sex Positive and Icon of Safer Sex Activism', former S&M hustler/sex worker, and writer.
Clarisse Thorn Interviewer / Author
Conducted the interview, organized the film series, and authored the blog post.
Lisa Education Coordinator
Coordinator at Hull-House Museum who helped conceive the film series.

Organizations (2)

Name Type Context
Hull-House Museum
Location where the film series was hosted and where Lisa worked.
House Oversight Committee
Implied by the Bates stamp 'HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_018564'.

Timeline (2 events)

Early 2009
Interview with Richard Berkowitz
New York City (meeting) / Email (interview)
Unspecified (prior to interview)
Screening of the film 'Sex Positive'
Hull-House Museum

Locations (2)

Location Context
Location where Clarisse Thorn met Richard Berkowitz in person.
Context for where Berkowitz spread the word about safer sex.

Relationships (2)

Clarisse Thorn Interviewer/Subject Richard Berkowitz
Thorn reviewed a film about Berkowitz, they corresponded via blog/email, met in NYC, and conducted an interview.
Clarisse Thorn Colleagues Lisa
Collaborated on a film series at Hull-House Museum.

Key Quotes (3)

"I feel a combination of both exhilaration and despair during these discussions -- exhilaration because I learn how far we've come, and despair because I can see how we keep making the same mistakes again and again and again."
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"But there was a huge backlash against him -- because in those days, the promiscuous bathhouse culture was seen by many gay men as a huge part of identifying as gay and sex-positive... and anyone who argued against it, or tried to modify it, was therefore cast by many people as sex-negative."
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"Do you think you would have gotten into BDSM if you hadn't had partners pressuring you to do it? Do you think you would have gotten into it if you hadn't been able to make money at it?"
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then distributed copies by hand. Then he was slammed by his own community for doing so... well, read on and learn more about what happened next.
I was honored to interview Berkowitz in early 2009. I really love it when I get the chance to talk to boundary-breaking activists who were around before I was born, especially if their domain is sexuality. I feel a combination of both exhilaration and despair during these discussions -- exhilaration because I learn how far we've come, and despair because I can see how we keep making the same mistakes again and again and again.
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Interview with Richard Berkowitz, Star of Sex Positive and Icon of Safer Sex Activism
Our second film at my awesome sex-positive film series was Sex Positive, a fascinating documentary about the history of safer sex. I'll be honest: I was psyched about Sex Positive from day one, long before I'd even seen it. It was the first film I chose for my film list. In fact, the whole idea for the film series came out of a conversation I had with Lisa (our lovely Hull-House Museum education coordinator) in which I said that I wanted to see Sex Positive, and then added, "There are so many sexuality movies I want to see. You and I should have a regular movie night!" She looked at me and said thoughtfully, "You know, I bet people besides us would come to that...."
Sex Positive tells the story of Richard Berkowitz -- and how he was one of the first to spread the word about safer sex in America. Berkowitz, a talented writer, started out as a hot-blooded participant in the promiscuous gay bathhouse culture; later, he became an S&M hustler (i.e., a sex worker). When AIDS started decimating the gay community, Berkowitz was instrumental in teaching his community (and the world) about safer sex. As it became clear to some medical professionals that sexual promiscuity spread AIDS, Berkowitz tried to tell the world about their findings. But there was a huge backlash against him -- because in those days, the promiscuous bathhouse culture was seen by many gay men as a huge part of identifying as gay and sex-positive... and anyone who argued against it, or tried to modify it, was therefore cast by many people as sex-negative.
After we screened Sex Positive, I reviewed it on my blog, and Richard Berkowitz himself read the review! He left a comment offering feedback, and I was so thrilled and honored to hear from him that I emailed him right away. We talked a little bit, and met in person last time I was in New York City -- and I practically begged him to let me interview him by email. Here's the results: a discussion of Richard's history with S&M; what he thinks about advocacy; his feelings about the gay community and its history; and where he finds himself in his life right now.
Clarisse Thorn: In Sex Positive, you mention that you didn't initially think of yourself as a BDSM type, but that you had partners who convinced you to do it. Do you think you would have gotten into BDSM if you hadn't had partners pressuring you to do it? Do you think you would have gotten into it if you hadn't been able to make money at it?
Richard Berkowitz: I was filmed talking in three- to four-hour sessions over the course of a year about difficult, often painful, personal history. At times I felt uncomfortable, I
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