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This document is an email thread from July 23-24, 2016, between Jeffrey Epstein (jeffrey E.) and AI researcher Joscha Bach. They engage in a philosophical and scientific discussion about intelligence, genetics, gender differences in IQ, social structures, and censorship. Epstein posits that 'the average is the only thing that matters' and that brains are like the nucleus of a larger social 'organism', while Bach discusses outliers on the Bell curve and variations in traits between genders.
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| jeffrey E. | Sender/Recipient |
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2016-07-23 to 2016-07-24
An email conversation between Jeffrey E. and Joscha Bach discussing concepts related to intelligence, genetics, gender differences in IQ, Bell curves, social structures, censorship, and the nature of human organization.
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The document is an email thread between Jeffrey E. (from jeevacation@gmail.com) and Joscha Bach, discussing complex scientific and philosophical topics over several days in July 2016.
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"you need workers as well as thinkers. you are focused on the individual. . focus on the group. . you NEED distributions."Source
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"Average humans are probably not fully able to learn how to program etc. Fraction of people that reshape the world are at the right end of the Bell curves, so difference in variation means fewer women."Source
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"the average is the only thing that matters"Source
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"the more radical idea is that brains are the nucleus of the human " cell : the body the membrane, the organizm the collections and interactions of brains."Source
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"I think that mathematics based thinking does not allow for censorship. ... most people have censorship built in at a deep level, social reasoning gets to different results than equivalent abstract reasoning"Source
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From: jeffrey E. [jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: 7/24/2016 5:43:22 AM
To: Joscha Bach
Subject: Re: Mechanisms for learning
Sent: 7/24/2016 5:43:22 AM
To: Joscha Bach
Subject: Re: Mechanisms for learning
you need workers as well as thinkers. you are focused on the individual. . focus on the group. . you NEED distributions.
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Joscha Bach <[REDACTED]> wrote:
Average humans are probably not fully able to learn how to program etc. Fraction of people that reshape the world are at the right end of the Bell curves, so difference in variation means fewer women. We tend to be more interested in the outliers. Have people explicitly evolved to be not to be too smart on average, or is general intelligence so hard to get from human brains?
Average humans are probably not fully able to learn how to program etc. Fraction of people that reshape the world are at the right end of the Bell curves, so difference in variation means fewer women. We tend to be more interested in the outliers. Have people explicitly evolved to be not to be too smart on average, or is general intelligence so hard to get from human brains?
Am 24.07.2016 um 00:20 schrieb jeffrey E. :
the average is the only thing that matters
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Joscha Bach <[REDACTED]> wrote:
Am 23.07.2016 um 04:41 schrieb jeffrey E. :
Cells seem to be mostly indistinguishable (except for XX), I thought?
Size is different on average, but males with small brains are still male.
Variation of all traits is higher for males, so there are more high IQ men (wider bell-curve). Given average brain size difference, the small difference in average IQ is surprising, I think
gender differenece. unlikely motivational. every cell is different. size is different. .
the more radical idea is that brains are the nucleus of the human " cell : the body the membrane, the organizm the collections and interactions of brains. wisdom of crowds mirroring. etc. . money used as signals. as is spoken language.. what does social behavior mean, it is the coordination of indiv brains. =
I think that mathematics based thinking does not allow for censorship. money people concepts if they are all math, then political correctness and their structures are only subsets of a larger group of thoughts. its not emotional for me.
most people have censorship built in at a deep level, social reasoning gets to different results than equivalent abstract reasoning
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Joscha Bach <[REDACTED]> wrote:
Some thoughts I meant to send back for a long time:
Some thoughts I meant to send back for a long time:
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