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This document is a page from a court transcript showing the cross-examination of a witness named Berke by an attorney, Mr. Okula. Mr. Okula poses a hypothetical question about what steps Berke would take if he discovered that a juror, specifically Juror No. 1, was a suspended attorney named Catherine Conrad. Berke refuses to answer the question, stating it is a far-fetched and speculative scenario that he has never experienced.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Berke | Witness |
A witness being cross-examined by Mr. Okula.
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| Catherine Conrad | Suspended Attorney / Potential Juror |
Mentioned in a hypothetical question as a suspended attorney who might be serving as Juror No. 1.
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| Mr. Okula | Attorney |
The attorney conducting the cross-examination of the witness, Berke.
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| Judge | Judge |
Addressed by Mr. Okula at the conclusion of his questioning.
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | company |
Listed at the bottom of the transcript as the court reporting service.
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Key Quotes (2)
"You're asking me to speculate and give opinions about an experience I've never had."Source
— Berke
(The witness's reason for refusing to answer Mr. Okula's hypothetical question about a juror being a suspended attorney.)
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"Judge, I have no further questions for Mr. Berke."Source
— MR. OKULA
(The attorney's statement concluding his cross-examination of the witness.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00033-PAE-NM Document 164-3-20 Filed 03/22/22 Page 71 of 117
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C2grdau4 Berke - cross
suspended attorney named Catherine Conrad, the same name as
Juror No. 1?
A. I was never in a position where I needed to or had to make
decisions about the investigation. I don't understand that I'm
here as an expert witness. I can tell you as a matter of fact
what I knew, what I was told, the conversations I had, but I
really can't go beyond that, Mr. Okula.
Q. You're not going to answer my question? You've hired
private investigators many times as a lawyer, right?
A. I have.
Q. Are you unwilling to answer the question that I just asked
about what steps you would take if you learned that Catherine
Conrad, a suspended attorney, was in existence and you knew you
had Catherine Conrad sitting in seat number 1? Are you not
going to answer that question?
A. What you are ignoring is it's such a far-fetched idea that
any citizen would come in here and lie to be a juror. I have
never experienced it as a practicing lawyer. It never occurred
to me it happened in this trial, and it's not something I have
ever thought about it. When I've used investigators it's
because I'm defending someone in a criminal case or civil case
and I want to look at facts. You're asking me to speculate and
give opinions about an experience I've never had.
MR. OKULA: Judge, I have no further questions for Mr.
Berke.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
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C2grdau4 Berke - cross
suspended attorney named Catherine Conrad, the same name as
Juror No. 1?
A. I was never in a position where I needed to or had to make
decisions about the investigation. I don't understand that I'm
here as an expert witness. I can tell you as a matter of fact
what I knew, what I was told, the conversations I had, but I
really can't go beyond that, Mr. Okula.
Q. You're not going to answer my question? You've hired
private investigators many times as a lawyer, right?
A. I have.
Q. Are you unwilling to answer the question that I just asked
about what steps you would take if you learned that Catherine
Conrad, a suspended attorney, was in existence and you knew you
had Catherine Conrad sitting in seat number 1? Are you not
going to answer that question?
A. What you are ignoring is it's such a far-fetched idea that
any citizen would come in here and lie to be a juror. I have
never experienced it as a practicing lawyer. It never occurred
to me it happened in this trial, and it's not something I have
ever thought about it. When I've used investigators it's
because I'm defending someone in a criminal case or civil case
and I want to look at facts. You're asking me to speculate and
give opinions about an experience I've never had.
MR. OKULA: Judge, I have no further questions for Mr.
Berke.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
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