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This document is a page from a court transcript recording a discussion between the Court and Ms. Menninger regarding jury instructions and legal interpretations of a specific count. They clarify whether the prosecution must prove aid in transportation specifically to New Mexico, with Ms. Menninger arguing that the location is not specific and could be any place where illegal sexual activity was intended, such as New York.
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"Can I get a yes or a no to my question? Is it your legal position that the jury must conclude, in order to convict on this count, that the defendant had to aid in the transportation of the flight to New Mexico?"Source
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"It could be any place, the purpose for which was to engage in illegal sexual activity."Source
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"I'm trying to track your comma argument."Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 773 Filed 08/10/22 Page 19 of 29 3136
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1 THE COURT: Wow.
2 MS. MENNINGER: And they are asking, Can we find her
3 responsible for the return flight, but not that flight to New
4 Mexico, where the intent was to engage in sexual activity.
5 That's why I think they have written it with the commas as they
6 are.
7 THE COURT: Okay.
8 MS. MENNINGER: So they have to be directed --
9 THE COURT: Let me try again. Can I get a yes or a no
10 to my question? Is it your legal position that the jury must
11 conclude, in order to convict on this count, that the defendant
12 had to aid in the transportation of the flight to New Mexico?
13 MS. MENNINGER: I don't believe that -- no, no, it is
14 not my contention.
15 THE COURT: Thank you.
16 MS. MENNINGER: And the reason is the indictment does
17 not specify New Mexico. It could be a flight to New York, for
18 example. It could be a flight to New Mexico. It could be any
19 place, the purpose for which was to engage in illegal sexual
20 activity. So it doesn't have to be to New Mexico.
21 THE COURT: I agree with that.
22 This is why it's difficult to parse the question
23 without assuming a variety of meanings, and I'm trying to track
24 your comma argument.
25 MS. MENNINGER: Had they placed the comma after New
2 MS. MENNINGER: And they are asking, Can we find her
3 responsible for the return flight, but not that flight to New
4 Mexico, where the intent was to engage in sexual activity.
5 That's why I think they have written it with the commas as they
6 are.
7 THE COURT: Okay.
8 MS. MENNINGER: So they have to be directed --
9 THE COURT: Let me try again. Can I get a yes or a no
10 to my question? Is it your legal position that the jury must
11 conclude, in order to convict on this count, that the defendant
12 had to aid in the transportation of the flight to New Mexico?
13 MS. MENNINGER: I don't believe that -- no, no, it is
14 not my contention.
15 THE COURT: Thank you.
16 MS. MENNINGER: And the reason is the indictment does
17 not specify New Mexico. It could be a flight to New York, for
18 example. It could be a flight to New Mexico. It could be any
19 place, the purpose for which was to engage in illegal sexual
20 activity. So it doesn't have to be to New Mexico.
21 THE COURT: I agree with that.
22 This is why it's difficult to parse the question
23 without assuming a variety of meanings, and I'm trying to track
24 your comma argument.
25 MS. MENNINGER: Had they placed the comma after New
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
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