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This document is an email thread from July 23-24, 2016, between Jeffrey Epstein (using the email 'jeevacation@gmail.com') and AI researcher Joscha Bach. The discussion, under the subject 'Re: Mechanisms for learning', delves into topics of human intelligence, the role of outliers versus averages, gender differences in IQ distribution based on bell curves, and philosophical ideas about the nature of human consciousness and society. The document is marked with a Bates number from the House Oversight Committee, and Joscha Bach's email address is redacted.
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2016-07-23 to 2016-07-24
An email exchange between Jeffrey E. and Joscha Bach discussing 'Mechanisms for learning', which evolved into a conversation about human intelligence, outliers, the Bell curve, gender differences in IQ, and the nature of society and abstract thought.
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Engaged in a detailed email exchange on scientific and philosophical topics over the course of July 23-24, 2016.
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"average humans is the wrong term. it is humans that are distributed think ant colony.( workers soldiers etc ) not average ant. no such thing. in isolation"Source
— jeffrey E.
(In an email on 7/24/2016, arguing against the concept of an 'average human'.)
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"Average humans are probably not fully able to learn how to program etc. Fraction of people that reshape the world are at the right end of the Bell curves, so difference in variation means fewer women."Source
— Joscha Bach
(In an email on 7/24/2016, discussing outliers and intelligence distribution.)
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"the more radical idea is that brains are the nucleus of the human " cell : the body the membrane, . the organizm the colletcions and interactions of brains."Source
— jeffrey E.
(In an email on 7/23/2016, proposing a model for human beings and society.)
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"I think that mathematics based thinking does not allow for censorship. ... most people have censorship built in at a deep level, social reasoning gets to different results than equivalent abstract reasoning"Source
— jeffrey E.
(In an email on 7/23/2016, contrasting mathematical thought with social reasoning and censorship.)
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From: jeffrey E. [jeevacation@gmail.com]
Sent: 7/24/2016 5:44:28 AM
To: Joscha Bach [REDACTED]
Subject: Re: Mechanisms for learning
Sent: 7/24/2016 5:44:28 AM
To: Joscha Bach [REDACTED]
Subject: Re: Mechanisms for learning
average humans is the wrong term. it is humans that are distributed think ant colony.( workers soldiers etc ) not average ant. no such thing. in isolation
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Joscha Bach <[REDACTED]> wrote:
Average humans are probably not fully able to learn how to program etc. Fraction of people that reshape the world are at the right end of the Bell curves, so difference in variation means fewer women. We tend to be more interested in the outliers. Have people explicitly evolved to be not to be too smart on average, or is general intelligence so hard to get from human brains?
Average humans are probably not fully able to learn how to program etc. Fraction of people that reshape the world are at the right end of the Bell curves, so difference in variation means fewer women. We tend to be more interested in the outliers. Have people explicitly evolved to be not to be too smart on average, or is general intelligence so hard to get from human brains?
Am 24.07.2016 um 00:20 schrieb jeffrey E. :
the average is the only thing that matters
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Joscha Bach <[REDACTED]> wrote:
Am 23.07.2016 um 04:41 schrieb jeffrey E. :
Cells seem to be mostly indistinguishable (except for XX), I thought?
Size is different on average, but males with small brains are still male.
Variation of all traits is higher for males, so there are more high IQ men (wider bell-curve). Given average brain size difference, the small difference in average IQ is surprising, I think
gender differenece. unlikely motivational. every cell is different. size is didfferent. .
the more radical idea is that brains are the nucleus of the human " cell : the body the membrane, . the organizm the colletcions and interactions of brains. wisdom of crowds mirroring. etc. . money used as signals. as is spoken language.. what does social behavior mean , it is the cooridiation of indiv brains. =
I think that mathematics based thinking does not allow for censorship. money people concepts if they are all math , then poliiical correctness and their structures are only subsets of a larger group of thoughts. its not emotinal for me.
most people have censorship built in at a deep level, social reasoning gets to different results than equivalent abstract reasoning
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Joscha Bach <[REDACTED]> wrote:
Some thoughts I meant to send back for a long time:
Some thoughts I meant to send back for a long time:
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