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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 72 of 158 72
LBAAMAX3ps Rocchio - Direct

1 groomed and victimized.
2 THE COURT: So given that there's a history of prior
3 sexual abuse, would that be relevant -- is that relevant for
4 you to understanding whether grooming occurred?
5 THE WITNESS: Not necessarily, because when I'm
6 looking at whether or not grooming occurred and when the
7 literature is looking about whether or not grooming occurred,
8 they're going to look at the specific circumstances associated
9 with whatever it is you're looking at. It's relevant in that I
10 know that prior victimization could increase vulnerability, but
11 just because someone is --
12 THE COURT: Well, vulnerability to what?
13 THE WITNESS: Vulnerability to subsequent sexual
14 abuse. But just because somebody is more vulnerable, that can
15 provide me with some information, but it's not going to factor
16 into my specific conclusions around the facts, say, in a
17 forensic setting if I'm being asked. Did grooming occur here.
18 I'm going to take into account prior victimization and
19 vulnerability. But that prior victimization and vulnerability
20 isn't going to tell me whether or not it happened here.
21 THE COURT: I guess I just want to understand that
22 piece. The point you made about prior sexual abuse can lead to
23 certain kinds of behaviors, is there anything in that analysis
24 that would impact how one understands whether grooming tactics
25 would be successful or whether the individual might be

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