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This document is a page from a court transcript dated August 10, 2022. It details testimony regarding the standard procedure for taking phone messages for a 'Mr. Epstein,' which involved writing the caller's name and number in a message book. This testimony is presented as being consistent with previous testimony from Juan Alessi, who stated that he, his wife, and another personal assistant also took messages in a similar fashion.
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Juan Alessi | Witness |
Mentioned as having previously testified about taking messages.
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| Mr. Epstein | Employer |
The person for whom phone messages were taken.
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| Hesse | Witness |
Mentioned in the header, likely the person being questioned under direct examination.
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| your Honor | Judge |
Addressed by the speaker discussing case law.
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| Algamal | Party in a lawsuit |
Mentioned in the case citation 'United States v. Algamal'.
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Second Circuit | government agency |
Mentioned as a court that has made a ruling on case law regarding custodians of records.
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | company |
Listed at the bottom of the page as the court reporting service.
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Timeline (2 events)
Relationships (3)
The witness describes their practice for taking messages while working for Mr. Epstein.
Juan Alessi's prior testimony indicates he also took messages for Mr. Epstein.
The document states that Juan Alessi's wife would also take messages.
Key Quotes (4)
"And what was the practice when you worked for Mr. Epstein of how you would take messages?"Source
— Questioner (Q)
(Question posed to the witness about their work for Mr. Epstein.)
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Quote #1
"I will answer the phone, I will listen who is calling. And if the message was for Mr. Epstein, and if he wants to take the call, he usually answer his calls, he has his number. And if he was there, he will answer his calls. If he was not there, I will take a message. Who's calling? I will ask for the telephone number, the name, and I will write it down in the -- in the -- in the message book."Source
— Witness (A)
(The witness's description of the procedure for handling phone calls for Mr. Epstein.)
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Quote #2
"And when would you write it in the message book?"Source
— Questioner (Q)
(Follow-up question about the timing of recording the message.)
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Quote #3
"Soon while I was talking on the phone."Source
— Witness (A)
(Response indicating the message was written down during the phone call.)
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Quote #4
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 79 of 262 1784
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1 That is consistent with the testimony of Juan Alessi
2 who testified at pages 879 and 880 of the transcript.
3 "Q. And what was the practice when you worked for Mr. Epstein
4 of how you would take messages?
5 "A. I will answer the phone, I will listen who is calling.
6 And if the message was for Mr. Epstein, and if he wants to take
7 the call, he usually answer his calls, he has his number. And
8 if he was there, he will answer his calls. If he was not
9 there, I will take a message. Who's calling? I will ask for
10 the telephone number, the name, and I will write it down in
11 the -- in the -- in the message book.
12 "Q. And when would you write it in the message book?
13 "A. Soon while I was talking on the phone.
14 "Q. As you're talking on the phone receiving the information,
15 you were writing down that information into the book?
16 "A. Yes."
17 That's also consistent with his testimony at pages 878
18 through 880 where he describes that not only would he take
19 messages, but his wife would take messages and that another
20 personal assistant would take messages.
21 Finally, your Honor, with respect to the question of
22 case law, the Second Circuit has made clear that the
23 requirement is not that the custodian have personal knowledge
24 of all of the records. In particular, in United States v.
25 Algamal, (ph.) 831 F.appx 539 (2d Cir. 2020). The Second
2 who testified at pages 879 and 880 of the transcript.
3 "Q. And what was the practice when you worked for Mr. Epstein
4 of how you would take messages?
5 "A. I will answer the phone, I will listen who is calling.
6 And if the message was for Mr. Epstein, and if he wants to take
7 the call, he usually answer his calls, he has his number. And
8 if he was there, he will answer his calls. If he was not
9 there, I will take a message. Who's calling? I will ask for
10 the telephone number, the name, and I will write it down in
11 the -- in the -- in the message book.
12 "Q. And when would you write it in the message book?
13 "A. Soon while I was talking on the phone.
14 "Q. As you're talking on the phone receiving the information,
15 you were writing down that information into the book?
16 "A. Yes."
17 That's also consistent with his testimony at pages 878
18 through 880 where he describes that not only would he take
19 messages, but his wife would take messages and that another
20 personal assistant would take messages.
21 Finally, your Honor, with respect to the question of
22 case law, the Second Circuit has made clear that the
23 requirement is not that the custodian have personal knowledge
24 of all of the records. In particular, in United States v.
25 Algamal, (ph.) 831 F.appx 539 (2d Cir. 2020). The Second
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
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