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Summary
This document is a court transcript from August 10, 2022, where attorneys debate the legal terminology in an indictment. Mr. Everdell argues against including 'and foreign' in the commerce charge, suggesting a lack of evidence. In response, Mr. Rohrbach, for the government, cites flight records showing the defendant traveled overseas with Jeffrey Epstein and a 17-year-old Virginia Roberts, asserting this evidence supports the 'foreign commerce' element.
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| MR. EVERDELL | Attorney (implied) |
Speaker in court, arguing about the language of an indictment concerning 'interstate and foreign commerce'.
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| THE COURT | Judge |
Presiding over the legal proceeding and interacting with the attorneys.
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| MR. ROHRBACH | Attorney (implied, for the government) |
Speaker in court, arguing that evidence of overseas travel justifies the 'foreign commerce' language in the indictment.
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| Virginia Roberts |
Mentioned as having traveled overseas with the defendant and Jeffrey Epstein while she was 17, according to flight re...
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| Jeffrey Epstein |
Mentioned as having traveled overseas with the defendant and Virginia Roberts.
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Organizations (1)
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | Company |
Listed in the footer of the document, likely the firm that transcribed the proceeding.
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Timeline (2 events)
2022-08-10
A legal argument took place regarding the wording of an indictment, specifically whether to include 'and foreign' in the description of commerce related to the charges.
Courtroom (implied)
Virginia Roberts traveled overseas with the defendant and Jeffrey Epstein while she was 17 years old.
overseas
Locations (1)
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Mentioned as the destination of travel for Virginia Roberts, the defendant, and Jeffrey Epstein.
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Relationships (4)
The document states they traveled together overseas, according to flight records.
The document states they traveled together overseas, according to flight records.
The document states they traveled together overseas, according to flight records.
They are presenting opposing legal arguments to the court during a hearing.
Key Quotes (2)
"I think it's interstate commerce, so I don't think the "and foreign" is necessary."Source
— MR. EVERDELL
(Arguing to the court that the charges should only refer to interstate commerce, not foreign commerce.)
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"the government's view is that there are flight records that show Virginia Roberts traveling with the defendant and Jeffrey Epstein overseas while she is 17, I believe, and so that would be sufficient, at least"Source
— MR. ROHRBACH
(Justifying the inclusion of 'foreign commerce' in the indictment by citing evidence of international travel.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN Document 765 Filed 08/10/22 Page 3 of 95 2741
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MR. EVERDELL: I can pull this up a little bit?
MR. EVERDELL: I can pull this up a little bit?
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THE COURT: -- if I'm going to hear from you a lot.
THE COURT: -- if I'm going to hear from you a lot.
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But yes, pull up the mic and -- yes. First page, Mr. Everdell.
But yes, pull up the mic and -- yes. First page, Mr. Everdell.
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MR. EVERDELL: Defense's first page is page 15.
MR. EVERDELL: Defense's first page is page 15.
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THE COURT: Okay. Line?
THE COURT: Okay. Line?
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MR. EVERDELL: Well, we'll start with line 8 and 9.
MR. EVERDELL: Well, we'll start with line 8 and 9.
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THE COURT: Okay.
THE COURT: Okay.
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MR. EVERDELL: So this was the summary of the
MR. EVERDELL: So this was the summary of the
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indictment charge, your Honor.
indictment charge, your Honor.
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THE COURT: Yes.
THE COURT: Yes.
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MR. EVERDELL: And on 8 and 9, there's a reference to
MR. EVERDELL: And on 8 and 9, there's a reference to
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travel to both interstate and foreign commerce. I think
travel to both interstate and foreign commerce. I think
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throughout the charge there's a bit of an inconsistency.
throughout the charge there's a bit of an inconsistency.
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Sometimes we're talking about just interstate, sometimes we're
Sometimes we're talking about just interstate, sometimes we're
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talking about interstate and foreign. I actually don't think
talking about interstate and foreign. I actually don't think
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that there's any evidence, especially with respect to Count One
that there's any evidence, especially with respect to Count One
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or the Mann Act charges or any of them, we're talking about
or the Mann Act charges or any of them, we're talking about
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"and foreign commerce." I think it's interstate commerce, so I
"and foreign commerce." I think it's interstate commerce, so I
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don't think the "and foreign" is necessary.
don't think the "and foreign" is necessary.
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THE COURT: I think we have -- Mr. Rohrbach?
THE COURT: I think we have -- Mr. Rohrbach?
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MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, this actually relates to
MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, this actually relates to
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the government's later request, but the government's view is
the government's later request, but the government's view is
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that there are flight records that show Virginia Roberts
that there are flight records that show Virginia Roberts
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traveling with the defendant and Jeffrey Epstein overseas while
traveling with the defendant and Jeffrey Epstein overseas while
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she is 17, I believe, and so that would be sufficient, at least
she is 17, I believe, and so that would be sufficient, at least
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
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