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This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE, likely USA v. Ghislaine Maxwell) filed on August 10, 2022. It details a legal debate between the Judge ('The Court') and attorneys Ms. Menninger and Ms. Moe regarding the interpretation of a jury note. The discussion focuses heavily on the grammatical placement of a comma in a question about liability for 'transportation of the return flight' versus a 'flight to New Mexico.'
People (3)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Ms. Menninger | Attorney |
Discussing the interpretation of a jury note and comma placement.
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the discussion regarding the jury note's meaning.
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| Ms. Moe | Attorney |
Arguing that the jury note is confusing and suggesting referring the jury back to instructions.
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Organizations (2)
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Listed in the footer.
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| DOJ |
Implied by Bates stamp prefix DOJ-OGR.
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Timeline (2 events)
2022-08-10
Filing of Document 773 in Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Southern District of New York (implied)
Unknown (Trial Proceedings)
Court discussion regarding jury deliberations and note interpretation
Courtroom
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Mentioned in the context of a specific flight discussed in the jury note.
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Used in a grammatical comparison regarding comma placement.
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Relationships (2)
Exchange during court proceedings regarding legal interpretation.
Key Quotes (4)
"can't she be responsible for aiding in the transportation of the return flight, comma, but not the flight to New Mexico"Source
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"I think at the point at which we're parsing jury notes like statutes this finely, I think it illustrates the point that this note is confusing"Source
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"The question is about the second element"Source
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"that precise sentence without that comma has an entirely different meaning"Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 773 Filed 08/10/22 Page 20 of 29 3137
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1 Mexico rather than the place where they did put the comma, then
2 that would have told us, can't she be responsible for aiding in
3 the transportation of the return flight, comma, but not the
4 flight to New Mexico, comma. That would then put the where/if
5 the intent was --
6 THE COURT: That would be an entirely different
7 meaning to the question.
8 MS. MENNINGER: I think so.
9 THE COURT: No, I agree. What I don't know is I don't
10 know what they meant and I don't know how much weight to put on
11 that comma placement; because, as you've noted, that precise
12 sentence without that comma has an entirely different meaning.
13 MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor.
14 And I think at the point at which we're parsing jury
15 notes like statutes this finely, I think it illustrates the
16 point that this note is confusing; that we're not sure what the
17 jury is asking about either factually or legally.
18 The question is about the second element; and so we
19 think the proper course is to refer the jury to those
20 particular instructions. And the jury is free to send a
21 clarifying note, if they wish to do so. But I think when we
22 are parsing commas this finely in a note that is unclear, it's
23 unclear which clauses are modifying which clauses, or which
24 flights we're even talking about, I think it's far too
25 confusing to give simple answers here.
2 that would have told us, can't she be responsible for aiding in
3 the transportation of the return flight, comma, but not the
4 flight to New Mexico, comma. That would then put the where/if
5 the intent was --
6 THE COURT: That would be an entirely different
7 meaning to the question.
8 MS. MENNINGER: I think so.
9 THE COURT: No, I agree. What I don't know is I don't
10 know what they meant and I don't know how much weight to put on
11 that comma placement; because, as you've noted, that precise
12 sentence without that comma has an entirely different meaning.
13 MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor.
14 And I think at the point at which we're parsing jury
15 notes like statutes this finely, I think it illustrates the
16 point that this note is confusing; that we're not sure what the
17 jury is asking about either factually or legally.
18 The question is about the second element; and so we
19 think the proper course is to refer the jury to those
20 particular instructions. And the jury is free to send a
21 clarifying note, if they wish to do so. But I think when we
22 are parsing commas this finely in a note that is unclear, it's
23 unclear which clauses are modifying which clauses, or which
24 flights we're even talking about, I think it's far too
25 confusing to give simple answers here.
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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