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This document is a page from the trial transcript (United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell) where the prosecution (Ms. Moe) and defense (Mr. Pagliuca) argue over the admissibility of message slips. The prosecution asserts these records prove a victim named 'Carolyn' contacted 'the house' during the conspiracy, while the defense argues the slips lack dates and signatures and cannot be fully authenticated by the current witness (Hesse).
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Carolyn | Victim/Witness |
Testified the previous day; her name appears on message slips contacting 'the house'.
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| Ms. Moe | Prosecutor/Government Attorney |
Arguing for the admissibility of message slips as business records.
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the admissibility argument.
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| Mr. Pagliuca | Defense Attorney |
Objecting to the admissibility of the message slips.
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| Hesse | Witness |
Mentioned in the header ('Hesse - direct') and referred to as 'This witness' who may be able to authenticate some slips.
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Listed in the footer.
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| The Government |
Referred to as 'the government's argument'.
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Locations (1)
| Location | Context |
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Location contacted by the victim 'Carolyn' during the charged conspiracy.
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Key Quotes (3)
"many of these messages have the first and last name of a victim who testified yesterday under the name Carolyn."Source
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"it confirms that a person with that name was contacting the house during the relevant timeframe of the charged conspiracy."Source
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"Many of these message slips don't have dates, don't have signatures, and have very sort of cryptic explanations"Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 72 of 262 1777
LC8Cmax3 Hesse - direct
LC8Cmax3 Hesse - direct
1 In particular, your Honor, many of these messages have
2 the first and last name of a victim who testified yesterday
3 under the name Carolyn. And so it confirms that a person with
4 that name was contacting the house during the relevant
5 timeframe of the charged conspiracy.
6 THE COURT: Just so I understand the government's
7 argument, you are offering for the truth, but it's the hearsay
8 exception that proffering is the business record exception?
9 MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor. If I could just have one
10 moment.
11 THE COURT: Yes.
12 MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor. Just to be more precise.
13 I've been using the shorthand business records, but here the
14 issue is about whether it's record of a regularly conducted
15 activity within an organization.
16 THE COURT: Mr. Pagliuca.
17 MR. PAGLIUCA: Yes, your Honor. Just so that the
18 record is clear, there are four, I will call them message slips
19 per page. Many of these message slips don't have dates, don't
20 have signatures, and have very sort of cryptic explanations
21 about what is or isn't being purported to be recorded here.
22 This witness, I think, maybe has the ability to
23 authenticate four or five of these separate slips, but has no
24 knowledge about the other slips.
25 THE COURT: I'm sorry. So is that a 901 objection?
2 the first and last name of a victim who testified yesterday
3 under the name Carolyn. And so it confirms that a person with
4 that name was contacting the house during the relevant
5 timeframe of the charged conspiracy.
6 THE COURT: Just so I understand the government's
7 argument, you are offering for the truth, but it's the hearsay
8 exception that proffering is the business record exception?
9 MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor. If I could just have one
10 moment.
11 THE COURT: Yes.
12 MS. MOE: Yes, your Honor. Just to be more precise.
13 I've been using the shorthand business records, but here the
14 issue is about whether it's record of a regularly conducted
15 activity within an organization.
16 THE COURT: Mr. Pagliuca.
17 MR. PAGLIUCA: Yes, your Honor. Just so that the
18 record is clear, there are four, I will call them message slips
19 per page. Many of these message slips don't have dates, don't
20 have signatures, and have very sort of cryptic explanations
21 about what is or isn't being purported to be recorded here.
22 This witness, I think, maybe has the ability to
23 authenticate four or five of these separate slips, but has no
24 knowledge about the other slips.
25 THE COURT: I'm sorry. So is that a 901 objection?
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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