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This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN, USA v. Ghislaine Maxwell) filed on August 10, 2022. It details a legal argument between prosecutor Mr. Rohrbach and defense attorney Mr. Everdell regarding jury instructions defining 'causation,' 'inducement,' and 'persuasion' in relation to a victim referred to as 'Jane' traveling in interstate commerce. The defense seeks specific language linking inducement to the travel, while the prosecution argues that the terms inherently imply causation.
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Mr. Rohrbach | Prosecutor/Government Attorney |
Arguing against specific jury instructions regarding causation and inducement.
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the discussion and asking for clarification on the proposed instruction.
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| Mr. Everdell | Defense Attorney |
Proposing specific language for jury instructions regarding 'Jane' and interstate travel.
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| Jane | Victim/Subject |
Mentioned in the proposed jury instruction as the individual caused to travel.
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| Broxmeyer | Legal Precedent (Case Name) |
Referenced by Rohrbach regarding case law (United States v. Broxmeyer).
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Listed in the footer.
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| DOJ |
Inferred from Bates stamp DOJ-OGR.
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2022-08-10
Court proceedings regarding jury instructions in Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN (USA v. Ghislaine Maxwell).
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Implied by the reporter's name (Southern District of New York).
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Relationships (2)
They are arguing opposite sides of a legal motion regarding jury instructions.
Context of the trial regarding inducement to travel.
Key Quotes (2)
""This element is satisfied only if the persuasion, inducement, or enticement caused Jane," or we can say "caused the individual," "to travel in interstate commerce as alleged in the indictment.""Source
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"The problem, your Honor, is that to the extent that those words already mean to cause, inducement has a causal meaning, persuasion has a causal meaning."Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN Document 765 Filed 08/10/22 Page 26 of 95 2764
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1 explaining the fact that that causation needs to exist. In
2 case there's any doubt in the minds of the jurors, there does
3 need to be causation. There has to be an effect from the
4 inducement, the persuasion, the enticement.
5 MR. ROHRBACH: First there has to be some sort of
6 causal relationship. That's what the word "inducement" means,
7 for example, as a form of a causal relationship. I'm certainly
8 not aware of any case or treatise that provided this
9 instruction. Maybe perhaps defense counsel is. But, you know,
10 the fact that it is in Broxmeyer does not mean it's appropriate
11 to give a further and more specific instruction about causation
12 than is already inherent in the ordinary meaning of these
13 words.
14 THE COURT: Just so I have my head around it, the
15 specific suggestion was what, Mr. Everdell?
16 MR. EVERDELL: "This element is satisfied only if the
17 persuasion, inducement, or enticement caused Jane," or we can
18 say "caused the individual," "to travel in interstate commerce
19 as alleged in the indictment."
20 MR. ROHRBACH: The problem, your Honor, is that to the
21 extent that those words already mean to cause, inducement has a
22 causal meaning, persuasion has a causal meaning. It's already
23 in the instruction. And to say, you can only satisfy those
24 words if she caused the travel suggests that there are two
25 requirements -- there's the requirement that the defendant
2 case there's any doubt in the minds of the jurors, there does
3 need to be causation. There has to be an effect from the
4 inducement, the persuasion, the enticement.
5 MR. ROHRBACH: First there has to be some sort of
6 causal relationship. That's what the word "inducement" means,
7 for example, as a form of a causal relationship. I'm certainly
8 not aware of any case or treatise that provided this
9 instruction. Maybe perhaps defense counsel is. But, you know,
10 the fact that it is in Broxmeyer does not mean it's appropriate
11 to give a further and more specific instruction about causation
12 than is already inherent in the ordinary meaning of these
13 words.
14 THE COURT: Just so I have my head around it, the
15 specific suggestion was what, Mr. Everdell?
16 MR. EVERDELL: "This element is satisfied only if the
17 persuasion, inducement, or enticement caused Jane," or we can
18 say "caused the individual," "to travel in interstate commerce
19 as alleged in the indictment."
20 MR. ROHRBACH: The problem, your Honor, is that to the
21 extent that those words already mean to cause, inducement has a
22 causal meaning, persuasion has a causal meaning. It's already
23 in the instruction. And to say, you can only satisfy those
24 words if she caused the travel suggests that there are two
25 requirements -- there's the requirement that the defendant
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