This is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE, United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell) dated August 10, 2022. Defense attorney Mr. Pagliuca objects to the prosecution's closing argument regarding 'grooming-by-proxy' for Jeffrey Epstein; the Judge overrules this, clarifying that while experts couldn't testify to it, lawyers could argue it based on evidence. Prosecutor Ms. Moe then discusses Government Exhibit 52, arguing it demonstrates knowledge and intent because the listed individuals were obviously not 'real masseuses.'
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Ms. Maxwell | Defendant |
Subject of the 'grooming-by-proxy' argument discussed by counsel.
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| Mr. Epstein | Associate of Defendant |
Mentioned as the person for whom Maxwell was allegedly grooming women.
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| Mr. Pagliuca | Defense Attorney |
Objecting to the prosecution's closing arguments regarding grooming-by-proxy.
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| Ms. Moe | Prosecutor (Government) |
Defending the government's use of Exhibit 52 and arguments regarding 'fake masseuses'.
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| The Court | Judge |
Overruling the defense's objection and clarifying previous rulings on expert testimony.
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| Name | Type | Context |
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Court reporting agency listed in the footer.
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| The Government |
Prosecution team referencing Exhibit 52.
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| Location | Context |
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Implied by the court reporter footer and case number format.
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"suggesting that somehow Ms. Maxwell was grooming these women for Mr. Epstein"Source
"My precise conclusion was the expert couldn't testify to it; but, of course, counsel could make arguments along that regard from the facts in the evidence."Source
"how it would be obvious, looking at a document, that none of this was legitimate, that they weren't real masseuses"Source
"When we compare the numbers in Government Exhibit 52 against the message pads"Source
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