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This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN, United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell) filed on August 10, 2022. It details a legal argument between prosecutor Mr. Rohrbach and the Judge regarding jury instructions for 18 U.S.C. 1591 (sex trafficking). The discussion focuses on whether 'foreign commerce' elements apply to charges involving Virginia Roberts versus Carolyn, with the defense/court noting a lack of evidence regarding Maxwell enticing Roberts specifically.
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Mr. Rohrbach | Attorney (Prosecution) |
Discussing jury instructions and legal statutes with the Judge.
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the case, questioning the application of 18 U.S.C. 1591.
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| Carolyn | Accuser/Witness |
Mentioned in testimony regarding recruitment and enticement.
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| Virginia Roberts | Accuser/Witness |
Subject of discussion regarding 'foreign commerce' charges and lack of evidence for enticement in the record.
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| Ms. Maxwell | Defendant |
Mentioned regarding the lack of evidence of her enticing Virginia Roberts.
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Organizations (3)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. | ||
| Government |
Referred to as 'The government' in the transcript.
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| DOJ |
Implied by Bates stamp DOJ-OGR.
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Timeline (1 events)
2022-08-10
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Jurisdiction implied by the court reporter's name (likely SDNY).
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Relationships (2)
Transcript states 'testimony was that she recruited Carolyn'.
Discussion regarding whether Maxwell enticed Roberts and if foreign commerce applies.
Key Quotes (4)
"Virginia Roberts, when there's no evidence in the record of Ms. Maxwell or anybody enticing her"Source
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"testimony was that she recruited Carolyn, and she didn't testify"Source
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"We're talking 18 U.S.C. 1591, correct?"Source
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"Whoever knowingly, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, recruits, entices, harbors, etc."Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN Document 765 Filed 08/10/22 Page 5 of 95
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1 testimony was that she recruited Carolyn, and she didn't
2 testify, and I don't think -- this is not the theory that the
3 government's been proceeding on on these counts. These counts
4 relate to the four accusers that testified. I think for the
5 jury to infer then that there's enticement with respect to
6 Virginia Roberts, when there's no evidence in the record of
7 Ms. Maxwell or anybody enticing her, there's just testimony
8 that she enticed Carolyn, if anything, that's not an
9 appropriate theory for the jury to base their conviction on
10 foreign commerce, if she's the one who traveled.
11 MR. ROHRBACH: If I may, your Honor. I think for
12 counts --
13 THE COURT: We're talking 18 U.S.C. 1591, correct?
14 MR. ROHRBACH: Yes. The government does not -- if the
15 Court and defense prefer to remove "foreign commerce" from One
16 through Four, Virginia Roberts's conduct doesn't show that.
17 While that's a legally proper instruction to leave "foreign
18 commerce," it's at least available to the jury as to Counts
19 Five and Six because of 18 U.S.C. 1591).
20 THE COURT: But the text of 18 U.S.C. 1591 doesn't
21 include "in foreign commerce," does it?
22 MR. ROHRBACH: Yes. It says, "Whoever knowingly, in
23 or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, recruits, entices,
24 harbors," etc.
25 Oh, I see. It appears that --
2 testify, and I don't think -- this is not the theory that the
3 government's been proceeding on on these counts. These counts
4 relate to the four accusers that testified. I think for the
5 jury to infer then that there's enticement with respect to
6 Virginia Roberts, when there's no evidence in the record of
7 Ms. Maxwell or anybody enticing her, there's just testimony
8 that she enticed Carolyn, if anything, that's not an
9 appropriate theory for the jury to base their conviction on
10 foreign commerce, if she's the one who traveled.
11 MR. ROHRBACH: If I may, your Honor. I think for
12 counts --
13 THE COURT: We're talking 18 U.S.C. 1591, correct?
14 MR. ROHRBACH: Yes. The government does not -- if the
15 Court and defense prefer to remove "foreign commerce" from One
16 through Four, Virginia Roberts's conduct doesn't show that.
17 While that's a legally proper instruction to leave "foreign
18 commerce," it's at least available to the jury as to Counts
19 Five and Six because of 18 U.S.C. 1591).
20 THE COURT: But the text of 18 U.S.C. 1591 doesn't
21 include "in foreign commerce," does it?
22 MR. ROHRBACH: Yes. It says, "Whoever knowingly, in
23 or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, recruits, entices,
24 harbors," etc.
25 Oh, I see. It appears that --
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
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