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This document is a page from a court transcript dated December 10, 2021, from Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE (United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell). It details a legal argument between the prosecution (Mr. Rohrbach) and defense (Ms. Menninger) regarding the scope of expert testimony provided by a Mr. Flatley concerning digital forensics and metadata. The judge instructs the parties on how to handle differing expert opinions on forensic principles.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Mr. Flatley | Witness / Expert |
Discussed regarding his qualifications and past testimony on digital forensics and metadata.
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| Mr. Rohrbach | Attorney (Government) |
Addressing the court regarding the scope of Mr. Flatley's expert testimony and government notice.
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| Ms. Menninger | Attorney (Defense) |
Responding to the court regarding potential objections to Mr. Flatley's testimony.
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the discussion regarding expert witness scope and instructions to counsel.
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Listed in the footer.
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| The Government |
Referenced regarding 'the government's expert notice'.
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| DOJ |
Department of Justice, referenced in footer code DOJ-OGR-00008334.
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2021-12-10
Court hearing discussion regarding the admissibility and scope of expert testimony by Mr. Flatley.
Southern District of New York (implied by Case No. and footer)
Relationships (2)
Speaks on behalf of the government regarding 'government's expert notice'.
Identified in context as opposing the government; identified in line 1 as 'for the defense'.
Key Quotes (3)
"Mr. Flatley is qualified as an expert in some of those four cases, which highlights the vagaries of this line"Source
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"To the extent that there is an issue that is not raised, either in the government's expert notice or 3500"Source
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"If he's got some differing expert opinion as to forensic principles or creation of documents or storage and retrieval of digital documents, or what information can be gleaned from metadata generally, I think you should notice those opinions."Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 536 Filed 12/10/21 Page 24 of 43 24
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1 in an abundance of caution, and also identified for the defense
2 four other cases in which Mr. Flatley has testified on a
3 similar topic so they can see --
4 THE COURT: That includes his ex-- to the extent it
5 crossed over into expert opinion about methodology, for
6 example --
7 MR. ROHRBACH: If I may have a minute, your Honor.
8 Mr. Flatley is qualified as an expert in some of those
9 four cases, which highlights the vagaries of this line, and it
10 provides information about the bases of his opinion about these
11 topics.
12 To the extent that there is an issue that is not
13 raised, either in the government's expert notice or 3500, or in
14 the similar exemplars we've given the testimony, that might be
15 something that's outside the bounds of the government axe pert
16 notice, depending on exactly what it is.
17 THE COURT: So I think what we need to do is, you have
18 your expert look at the testimony that he's provided. If he's
19 got some differing expert opinion as to forensic principles or
20 creation of documents or storage and retrieval of digital
21 documents, or what information can be gleaned from metadata
22 generally, I think you should notice those opinions. But
23 absent that, we'll let it play out. OK.
24 MS. MENNINGER: Certainly, your Honor. And obviously
25 if Mr. Flatley attempts to offer opinions during his testimony
2 four other cases in which Mr. Flatley has testified on a
3 similar topic so they can see --
4 THE COURT: That includes his ex-- to the extent it
5 crossed over into expert opinion about methodology, for
6 example --
7 MR. ROHRBACH: If I may have a minute, your Honor.
8 Mr. Flatley is qualified as an expert in some of those
9 four cases, which highlights the vagaries of this line, and it
10 provides information about the bases of his opinion about these
11 topics.
12 To the extent that there is an issue that is not
13 raised, either in the government's expert notice or 3500, or in
14 the similar exemplars we've given the testimony, that might be
15 something that's outside the bounds of the government axe pert
16 notice, depending on exactly what it is.
17 THE COURT: So I think what we need to do is, you have
18 your expert look at the testimony that he's provided. If he's
19 got some differing expert opinion as to forensic principles or
20 creation of documents or storage and retrieval of digital
21 documents, or what information can be gleaned from metadata
22 generally, I think you should notice those opinions. But
23 absent that, we'll let it play out. OK.
24 MS. MENNINGER: Certainly, your Honor. And obviously
25 if Mr. Flatley attempts to offer opinions during his testimony
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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