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This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE, United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell) filed on August 10, 2022. It details a legal argument between prosecutor Mr. Rohrbach and defense attorney Ms. Menninger regarding the upcoming testimony of a witness named Mr. Flatley. The dispute centers on whether Flatley's testimony regarding file dates on CDs constitutes expert opinion or purely factual testimony based on '3500 material'.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Mr. Rohrbach | Attorney (Government) |
Speaking to the court regarding the scope of Mr. Flatley's testimony and responding to defense letters.
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the hearing, instructing counsel to get to the point.
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| Ms. Menninger | Attorney (Defense) |
Raising objections regarding the technical nature of Mr. Flatley's testimony about CDs.
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| Mr. Flatley | Witness |
Expected to give fact testimony regarding CDs, specifically about created vs. modified dates on files.
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| Name | Type | Context |
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Listed in the footer.
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| Government |
Referenced as submitting the November 26 letter.
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Timeline (2 events)
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Jurisdiction indicated by the court reporters' name (SDNY).
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Relationships (2)
Rohrbach discusses what questions the government expects to ask Flatley.
Menninger is raising issues regarding the content of Flatley's upcoming testimony.
Key Quotes (3)
"Every letter I get, it starts with, We're so surprised or this has already been litigated. Let's just get to the issue."Source
— The Court
(Expressing frustration with the formulaic nature of the legal correspondence.)
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"Mr. Flatley intends to testify that a created date is the same thing as a modified date."Source
— Ms. Menninger
(Describing the specific technical testimony the defense is concerned about.)
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"I think that we expect Mr. Flatley to give purely fact testimony regarding CDs, and there's no expert opinion at all involved there."Source
— Mr. Rohrbach
(Arguing that the witness is a fact witness, not an expert witness.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 753 Filed 08/10/22 Page 14 of 264 1436
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1 we're down to, your Honor.
2 THE COURT: Okay.
3 MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, as I think our letter
4 indicated, we're quite surprised to receive the defendant's --
5 THE COURT: Mr. Rohrbach, let's just get to the issue.
6 It sounds like it's narrowed to two things. Every letter I
7 get, it starts with, We're so surprised or this has already
8 been litigated. Let's just get to the issue.
9 MR. ROHRBACH: So, your Honor, I think we're in a
10 pretty good place then. Mr. Flatley is not going to go into
11 very much -- we obviously don't know exactly what Mr. Flatley
12 will say on the stand, but the questions and what we expect to
13 elicit should track the government's November 26 letter. And
14 so it sounds like if defense counsel doesn't have a problem
15 with what's in this letter, then there is no issue here for the
16 Court.
17 I'm not exactly sure what Ms. Menninger is referencing
18 with regard to CDs, but I think that we expect Mr. Flatley to
19 give purely fact testimony regarding CDs, and there's no expert
20 opinion at all involved there. To the extent that it's a late
21 disclosure of anything, it's just a factual view of Mr. Flatley
22 that is in the 3500 material that he may testify to.
23 MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, on the CDs, apparently
24 Mr. Flatley intends to testify that a created date is the same
25 thing as a modified date. And also about once a file is burned
2 THE COURT: Okay.
3 MR. ROHRBACH: Your Honor, as I think our letter
4 indicated, we're quite surprised to receive the defendant's --
5 THE COURT: Mr. Rohrbach, let's just get to the issue.
6 It sounds like it's narrowed to two things. Every letter I
7 get, it starts with, We're so surprised or this has already
8 been litigated. Let's just get to the issue.
9 MR. ROHRBACH: So, your Honor, I think we're in a
10 pretty good place then. Mr. Flatley is not going to go into
11 very much -- we obviously don't know exactly what Mr. Flatley
12 will say on the stand, but the questions and what we expect to
13 elicit should track the government's November 26 letter. And
14 so it sounds like if defense counsel doesn't have a problem
15 with what's in this letter, then there is no issue here for the
16 Court.
17 I'm not exactly sure what Ms. Menninger is referencing
18 with regard to CDs, but I think that we expect Mr. Flatley to
19 give purely fact testimony regarding CDs, and there's no expert
20 opinion at all involved there. To the extent that it's a late
21 disclosure of anything, it's just a factual view of Mr. Flatley
22 that is in the 3500 material that he may testify to.
23 MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, on the CDs, apparently
24 Mr. Flatley intends to testify that a created date is the same
25 thing as a modified date. And also about once a file is burned
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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