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Court transcript (sidebar conference)
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This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE, United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell) filed on August 10, 2022. It details a sidebar conference during the direct examination of a witness named Rocchio. The Judge admonishes Ms. Pomerantz (prosecution) for approaching a line of questioning regarding 'grooming by proxy' or 'third-party involvement' in a 'pimp-prostitute context,' which the Judge states was precluded or limited during a previous Daubert hearing.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| The Court | Judge |
Presiding over the sidebar, ruling on the admissibility of questioning regarding grooming.
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| Ms. Pomerantz | Prosecutor (AUSA) |
Defending her line of questioning to the judge.
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| Rocchio | Witness |
Mentioned in the header 'Rocchio - Direct', likely the witness on the stand whose testimony is being debated.
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| Defense Counsel | Defense Attorneys |
Referenced by Ms. Pomerantz as having reviewed the question beforehand.
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. | ||
| DOJ |
Implied by Bates stamp DOJ-OGR
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Timeline (1 events)
2022-08-10
Sidebar conference during the trial (Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE) regarding the scope of expert testimony.
Courtroom Sidebar
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Implied by Southern District Reporters (SDNY)
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Relationships (1)
Pomerantz states she 'ran this question by defense counsel'
Key Quotes (5)
"This is grooming by third-party involvement. They called it grooming by proxy."Source
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"It is a specific area that I precluded in my opinion."Source
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"Well, you're toying with that boundary in a way that was not discussed in the Daubert hearing."Source
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"So, for example, it sounds like she's giving an opinion similar to the pimp-prostitute context..."Source
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"Your Honor, I just note that I had actually ran this question by defense counsel to avoid this"Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 747 Filed 08/10/22 Page 52 of 228 728
LC2VMAX2 Rocchio - Direct
LC2VMAX2 Rocchio - Direct
1 (At sidebar)
2 THE COURT: This is grooming by third-party
3 involvement. They called it grooming by proxy. It is a
4 specific area that I precluded in my opinion. That was the
5 only -- in the Daubert, the only questions that were asked
6 about whether there might be someone else who receives the
7 sexual gratification was in the context of that precise issue.
8 We talked about it in the context of testimony in the
9 pimp-prostitute context, and it was litigated entirely on that
10 question, and that's where I precluded it.
11 MS. POMERANTZ: Your Honor, I just wanted to note we
12 weren't asking about the presence of a third party facilitating
13 a sexual abuse, which is what I understood your Honor's opinion
14 to be --
15 THE COURT: Well, you're toying with that boundary in
16 a way that was not discussed in the Daubert hearing. You
17 didn't ask that question that you just asked, and we only
18 discussed it.
19 So, for example, it sounds like she's giving an
20 opinion similar to the pimp-prostitute context, that we talked
21 about those cases precisely on this issue. So you're toying
22 with the boundary of what I've precluded in a way that was not
23 brought out during Daubert.
24 MS. POMERANTZ: Your Honor, I just note that I had
25 actually ran this question by defense counsel to avoid this
2 THE COURT: This is grooming by third-party
3 involvement. They called it grooming by proxy. It is a
4 specific area that I precluded in my opinion. That was the
5 only -- in the Daubert, the only questions that were asked
6 about whether there might be someone else who receives the
7 sexual gratification was in the context of that precise issue.
8 We talked about it in the context of testimony in the
9 pimp-prostitute context, and it was litigated entirely on that
10 question, and that's where I precluded it.
11 MS. POMERANTZ: Your Honor, I just wanted to note we
12 weren't asking about the presence of a third party facilitating
13 a sexual abuse, which is what I understood your Honor's opinion
14 to be --
15 THE COURT: Well, you're toying with that boundary in
16 a way that was not discussed in the Daubert hearing. You
17 didn't ask that question that you just asked, and we only
18 discussed it.
19 So, for example, it sounds like she's giving an
20 opinion similar to the pimp-prostitute context, that we talked
21 about those cases precisely on this issue. So you're toying
22 with the boundary of what I've precluded in a way that was not
23 brought out during Daubert.
24 MS. POMERANTZ: Your Honor, I just note that I had
25 actually ran this question by defense counsel to avoid this
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