This document is a page from a transcript (likely House Oversight material) featuring an interview between an individual named Shaffer and political scientist Francis Fukuyama. Fukuyama discusses his experiences with nation-building in Afghanistan and Iraq post-9/11, his time at Johns Hopkins SAIS, and his skepticism regarding the inevitability of democratic institutions, citing the accidental survival of the English Parliament as a key factor in European democracy. There is no direct mention of Jeffrey Epstein on this specific page.
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