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This document is a page from a court transcript where an unnamed victim testifies about a manipulative and abusive experience. The speaker uses an analogy of a frog in boiling water to explain the gradual nature of the abuse, which made it hard to recognize, and emphasizes that the victims were vulnerable and impoverished, not attempting to extort money. The testimony highlights the psychological impact, including intense self-blame and the burden of keeping the experience a secret.
People (2)
| Name | Role | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Thomas Nagel | writer |
Mentioned as the author of an essay called "What is it like to be a bat?" which the speaker uses as an analogy.
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| Unnamed Speaker | Victim/Witness |
The individual providing the testimony on this page, describing their experience and feelings.
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
|---|---|---|
| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | Company |
Listed at the bottom of the page, indicating they are the court reporting service that transcribed the proceedings.
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Timeline (1 events)
An unnamed victim provides testimony about their experience of manipulation and abuse, explaining the psychological impact and the circumstances of the victims.
Relationships (1)
Unnamed male perpetrator
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Abusive/Manipulative
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Unnamed Speaker / Victims
The speaker describes a male figure ('he') as being 'really strategic in how he approached each of us' and uses the 'frog in a pan of water' analogy to describe the slow, manipulative process. The speaker also mentions the victims were in 'vulnerable situations' and 'extreme poverty', indicating a power imbalance.
Key Quotes (4)
"What is it like to be a bat?"Source
— Thomas Nagel
(The title of an essay by Thomas Nagel, quoted by the speaker to illustrate the difficulty of explaining an experience to someone who has not gone through it.)
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Quote #1
"We didn't -- it almost was like, putting it like that analogy of a frog being in a pan of water and slowly turning the flame up. You didn't realize it was happening..."Source
— Unnamed Speaker
(The speaker uses this analogy to describe the gradual and insidious nature of the situation they were in.)
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Quote #2
"it wasn't a situation where we were trying to extort money from someone. A lot of us were in very vulnerable situations and in extreme poverty..."Source
— Unnamed Speaker
(The speaker is clarifying the victims' motives and circumstances, pushing back against potential accusations of extortion.)
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Quote #3
"You start to blame yourself because, at first, you don't tell anyone what's happening, and it becomes your deep, dark secret that you tried to keep from everyone."Source
— Unnamed Speaker
(Describing the psychological effect of the experience, leading to self-blame and secrecy.)
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Case 1:19-cr-00490-RMB Document 53 Filed 09/03/19 Page 38 of 86 38
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1 hard to explain to people who haven't gone through it. I think
2 there's a writer, Thomas Nagel, who wrote an essay called "What
3 is it like to be a bat?" And I think that he touches on it
4 pretty strongly and if you haven't experienced something, it's
5 very hard to fully understand why someone makes the decisions
6 they do and what the circumstances were.
7 I don't want to speak for all of the victims. I think
8 each of us has a different story and different circumstances
9 for why we stayed in it, but for me, I think he was really
10 strategic in how he approached each of us. Things happened
11 slowly over time. We didn't -- it almost was like, putting it
12 like that analogy of a frog being in a pan of water and slowly
13 turning the flame up. You didn't realize it was happening, and
14 it just -- I don't think anyone can fully understand the
15 experience, but I just -- the blame feels very strong.
16 There's a lot of support as well, but I just want
17 people to try and understand that we aren't bad people. We
18 weren't trying to -- it wasn't a situation where we were trying
19 to extort money from someone. A lot of us were in very
20 vulnerable situations and in extreme poverty, circumstances
21 where we didn't have anyone on our side, to speak on our
22 behalf, and that's really scary.
23 You start to blame yourself because, at first, you
24 don't tell anyone what's happening, and it becomes your deep,
25 dark secret that you tried to keep from everyone. And I didn't
2 there's a writer, Thomas Nagel, who wrote an essay called "What
3 is it like to be a bat?" And I think that he touches on it
4 pretty strongly and if you haven't experienced something, it's
5 very hard to fully understand why someone makes the decisions
6 they do and what the circumstances were.
7 I don't want to speak for all of the victims. I think
8 each of us has a different story and different circumstances
9 for why we stayed in it, but for me, I think he was really
10 strategic in how he approached each of us. Things happened
11 slowly over time. We didn't -- it almost was like, putting it
12 like that analogy of a frog being in a pan of water and slowly
13 turning the flame up. You didn't realize it was happening, and
14 it just -- I don't think anyone can fully understand the
15 experience, but I just -- the blame feels very strong.
16 There's a lot of support as well, but I just want
17 people to try and understand that we aren't bad people. We
18 weren't trying to -- it wasn't a situation where we were trying
19 to extort money from someone. A lot of us were in very
20 vulnerable situations and in extreme poverty, circumstances
21 where we didn't have anyone on our side, to speak on our
22 behalf, and that's really scary.
23 You start to blame yourself because, at first, you
24 don't tell anyone what's happening, and it becomes your deep,
25 dark secret that you tried to keep from everyone. And I didn't
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
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