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This document is a court transcript from February 15, 2012, detailing the examination of a witness named Conrad. The questioning focuses on whether Conrad intentionally lied by omitting the fact he was a lawyer in order to be selected for a jury. Conrad admits to omitting the "pertinent fact" and the questioning explores his motivations, his state of mind during deliberations, and his interactions with U.S. Marshals who later served him a subpoena related to the matter.
People (5)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| PAUL M. DAUGERDAS | Named party in case |
Mentioned in the case title: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.
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| Conrad | Witness |
The person being questioned throughout the transcript.
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| Juror No. 2 | Juror / Forewoman |
Mentioned by Conrad as the forewoman to whom he handed a note about respondeat superior.
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| Mr. Shanbrom | Witness |
Mentioned as having been on the witness stand during the trial.
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| Lynn Swann |
Mentioned as someone the witness (Conrad) expressed admiration for during voir dire.
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Organizations (3)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| UNITED STATES OF AMERICA | government agency |
The plaintiff in the case title.
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| THE COURT | government agency |
Referenced throughout as the judicial body presiding over the case, asking questions, and being the entity lied to.
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS | company |
Listed at the bottom of the page, indicating they are the court reporters who transcribed the proceedings.
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Timeline (3 events)
Locations (2)
| Location | Context |
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The location of Conrad's house where marshals served him an order.
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Mentioned by Conrad as his place of residence.
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Relationships (2)
The document details an investigation by the Court into Conrad's conduct as a juror, specifically whether he lied to the Court to get on the jury.
Conrad identifies Juror No. 2 as the forewoman and states he handed her a note during deliberations, indicating they served on the same jury.
Key Quotes (5)
"When you were deliberating in this case, did you have it present in your mind that you had lied to get on to this jury?"Source
— Questioner (Q)
(Asking Conrad about his state of mind during jury deliberations.)
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"Do you believe that you lied to the Court about being a lawyer?"Source
— Questioner (Q)
(Directly questioning Conrad about his omission during jury selection.)
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"I know I omitted that very pertinent fact."Source
— Conrad (A)
(Conrad's response when asked if he lied to the court about being a lawyer.)
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"Do you recall telling them that in your view you had not lied, because no one asked you about whether or not you were a lawyer?"Source
— Questioner (Q)
(Questioning Conrad about what he told the marshals who served him a subpoena.)
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Quote #4
"Is there anything you think it would be important for us to know about you in making a decision as to whether you should serve as a juror in this case?"Source
— The Court
(A question from the judge during voir dire, quoted by the questioner to Conrad.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAEumDocument 616 Filed 02/24/12 Page 34 of 67
A-5652
A-5652
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
C2frdau5 Conrad - direct Page 169
1 the answer is no.
2 Q. How did you explain the note about respondeat superior?
3 A. Common knowledge. Actually, I didn't have to explain it.
4 I just handed it to Juror No. 2, who was our forewoman, and she
5 submitted it to the Court.
6 Q. When you were deliberating in this case, did you have it
7 present in your mind that you had lied to get on to this jury?
8 A. I don't think I'm supposed to answer questions about jury
9 room deliberations, sir.
10 THE COURT: You can answer that question.
11 A. Could you please restate it.
12 Q. When you were deliberating in this case, did you have it
13 present in your mind that you had lied to get on the jury?
14 A. No, no.
15 Q. Between the time when you told the lies and the time you
16 rendered your verdict, when did you stop having it present in
17 your mind thinking about the fact that you had lied to get on
18 the jury?
19 A. Oh, sir, I don't know.
20 Q. Was it when we were cross-examining witnesses and exposing
21 untruths that they had told?
22 A. I don't have a time estimate for it.
23 Q. Do you remember when Mr. Shanbrom was on the witness stand?
24 A. Shambron, yes.
25 Q. Do you remember what a liar he was?
1 the answer is no.
2 Q. How did you explain the note about respondeat superior?
3 A. Common knowledge. Actually, I didn't have to explain it.
4 I just handed it to Juror No. 2, who was our forewoman, and she
5 submitted it to the Court.
6 Q. When you were deliberating in this case, did you have it
7 present in your mind that you had lied to get on to this jury?
8 A. I don't think I'm supposed to answer questions about jury
9 room deliberations, sir.
10 THE COURT: You can answer that question.
11 A. Could you please restate it.
12 Q. When you were deliberating in this case, did you have it
13 present in your mind that you had lied to get on the jury?
14 A. No, no.
15 Q. Between the time when you told the lies and the time you
16 rendered your verdict, when did you stop having it present in
17 your mind thinking about the fact that you had lied to get on
18 the jury?
19 A. Oh, sir, I don't know.
20 Q. Was it when we were cross-examining witnesses and exposing
21 untruths that they had told?
22 A. I don't have a time estimate for it.
23 Q. Do you remember when Mr. Shanbrom was on the witness stand?
24 A. Shambron, yes.
25 Q. Do you remember what a liar he was?
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1 no one asked you about being a lawyer?
2 A. Sir, that's posing the quantum theory if the tree doesn't
3 fall and nobody sees it. No, of course the answer is no.
4 Q. Do you believe that you lied to the Court about being a
5 lawyer?
6 A. I know I omitted that very pertinent fact.
7 Q. Do you believe that was a lie?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Do you believe that it was the Court's fault for not asking
10 you whether you were a lawyer?
11 A. No, of course not.
12 Q. No, because if you had told the Court that you went to law
13 school, you would have been asked, right?
14 A. I would have been asked or axed, like they would have axed
15 me from the jury?
16 Q. Let me pose a different question. In voir dire when you
17 were being asked specific questions, did you tell the judge
18 anything that was true besides your admiration for Lynn Swann,
19 the fact that you have no children? Did you tell him anything
20 that was true?
21 A. Of course.
22 Q. What?
23 A. I have a BA in English literature.
24 Q. OK.
25 A. And I studied archeology abroad. And I consider my
1 no one asked you about being a lawyer?
2 A. Sir, that's posing the quantum theory if the tree doesn't
3 fall and nobody sees it. No, of course the answer is no.
4 Q. Do you believe that you lied to the Court about being a
5 lawyer?
6 A. I know I omitted that very pertinent fact.
7 Q. Do you believe that was a lie?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Do you believe that it was the Court's fault for not asking
10 you whether you were a lawyer?
11 A. No, of course not.
12 Q. No, because if you had told the Court that you went to law
13 school, you would have been asked, right?
14 A. I would have been asked or axed, like they would have axed
15 me from the jury?
16 Q. Let me pose a different question. In voir dire when you
17 were being asked specific questions, did you tell the judge
18 anything that was true besides your admiration for Lynn Swann,
19 the fact that you have no children? Did you tell him anything
20 that was true?
21 A. Of course.
22 Q. What?
23 A. I have a BA in English literature.
24 Q. OK.
25 A. And I studied archeology abroad. And I consider my
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1 A. I'm not the judge.
2 Q. Do you remember at that time thinking, wow, I've told lies
3 just like he did?
4 A. No, I never thought that.
5 Q. When the marshals came out to serve you with an order on
6 December 15th to tell you to come to court, did you tell the
7 marshals that you had lied about not being a lawyer?
8 A. Will you please restate the question.
9 Q. Yes, I can. Do you remember when the marshals came out to
10 serve you at your house?
11 A. Yes, of course.
12 Q. By the way, was that on Barker Avenue?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. When they came out to serve you, did you tell them, I think
15 I know what this is about?
16 A. Oh, first I told them we have cats, and if you're allergic,
17 stay outside. But specifically I don't really recall what I
18 said.
19 Q. Do you recall telling them that in your view you had not
20 lied, because no one asked you about whether or not you were a
21 lawyer?
22 A. I don't recall. They were there for maybe a minute handing
23 me the subpoena, and that was about it.
24 Q. At any time since last August, have you thought, have you
25 had the belief that you didn't lie about being a lawyer because
1 A. I'm not the judge.
2 Q. Do you remember at that time thinking, wow, I've told lies
3 just like he did?
4 A. No, I never thought that.
5 Q. When the marshals came out to serve you with an order on
6 December 15th to tell you to come to court, did you tell the
7 marshals that you had lied about not being a lawyer?
8 A. Will you please restate the question.
9 Q. Yes, I can. Do you remember when the marshals came out to
10 serve you at your house?
11 A. Yes, of course.
12 Q. By the way, was that on Barker Avenue?
13 A. Yes.
14 Q. When they came out to serve you, did you tell them, I think
15 I know what this is about?
16 A. Oh, first I told them we have cats, and if you're allergic,
17 stay outside. But specifically I don't really recall what I
18 said.
19 Q. Do you recall telling them that in your view you had not
20 lied, because no one asked you about whether or not you were a
21 lawyer?
22 A. I don't recall. They were there for maybe a minute handing
23 me the subpoena, and that was about it.
24 Q. At any time since last August, have you thought, have you
25 had the belief that you didn't lie about being a lawyer because
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1 residence in Bronxville, not Bronx Village. There were only
2 seven questions that were posed, I believe.
3 Q. You told the truth in just about all of them, right?
4 A. You have to qualify your question, because there were
5 questions that were asked to the jury panel as a whole and then
6 individually. I revealed the fact that -- well, whatever you
7 said before.
8 Q. One question we haven't covered there on page 204 is the
9 last question. This question is, "The Court: All right. Is
10 there anything you think it would be important for us to know
11 about you in making a decision as to whether you should serve
12 as a juror in this case?" Do you remember him asking that
13 question?
14 A. Absolutely.
15 Q. You said, "If the trial lasts more than three months, I'm
16 still available."
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. Because you really wanted to be on this jury?
19 A. And I was available.
20 Q. You said it because you really wanted to be on this jury,
21 right?
22 A. I can't pinpoint at that time. I'm sorry.
23 Q. Did you think that there was nothing else that was
24 important for us to know about you in making a decision as to
25 whether you should serve as a juror?
1 residence in Bronxville, not Bronx Village. There were only
2 seven questions that were posed, I believe.
3 Q. You told the truth in just about all of them, right?
4 A. You have to qualify your question, because there were
5 questions that were asked to the jury panel as a whole and then
6 individually. I revealed the fact that -- well, whatever you
7 said before.
8 Q. One question we haven't covered there on page 204 is the
9 last question. This question is, "The Court: All right. Is
10 there anything you think it would be important for us to know
11 about you in making a decision as to whether you should serve
12 as a juror in this case?" Do you remember him asking that
13 question?
14 A. Absolutely.
15 Q. You said, "If the trial lasts more than three months, I'm
16 still available."
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. Because you really wanted to be on this jury?
19 A. And I was available.
20 Q. You said it because you really wanted to be on this jury,
21 right?
22 A. I can't pinpoint at that time. I'm sorry.
23 Q. Did you think that there was nothing else that was
24 important for us to know about you in making a decision as to
25 whether you should serve as a juror?
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