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Type: Interview transcript / investigative document
File Size: 2.09 MB
Summary

This document appears to be page 32 of a transcript, likely from an 'Edge' conversation or similar intellectual forum often associated with Epstein's circle, submitted to the House Oversight Committee. It features an interview between Shaffer and Fukuyama discussing the decline of American hegemony, the Cold War, and the moral implications of synthetic biology, specifically referencing Fukuyama's book 'Our Posthuman Future' (2002). The date is inferred to be around 2011 based on the reference to 'the past nine years' since the book's publication.

People (2)

Name Role Context
Fukuyama Interviewee / Speaker
Francis Fukuyama (implied by name and book title), discussing geopolitics and synthetic biology.
Shaffer Interviewer
Asking questions regarding Fukuyama's book 'Our Posthuman Future'.

Organizations (2)

Name Type Context
House Oversight Committee
Indicated by the Bates stamp/footer 'HOUSE_OVERSIGHT'.
U.S. Government
Discussed in the context of hegemony and global influence.

Timeline (1 events)

Circa 2011
Interview between Shaffer and Fukuyama regarding geopolitics and biotechnology.
Unknown

Locations (2)

Location Context
Mentioned as 'U.S.' regarding democracy and hegemony.
Mentioned as an example of military intervention ('doing things like Iraq').

Relationships (1)

Shaffer Interviewer/Interviewee Fukuyama
Dialogue format in text: 'SHAFFER:... FUKUYAMA:...'

Key Quotes (3)

"I’m not as scared of a world without American hegemony as some people are."
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"And in the more multi-polar world we’d probably think twice about doing things like Iraq."
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"The creation of an artificial bacteria itself is not immediately threatening, but it’s part of a long-term process by which we’ll uncover the technologies for manufacturing life, in ways that could have very serious security and moral implications."
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But the idea of liberal democracy — the U.S. is not the only exemplar
of liberal democracy — [remains]. It’s a powerful idea that would
exist independently of whether the U.S. is hegemonic or not.
I’m not as scared of a world without American hegemony as some
people are. We went through the whole Cold War period in which the
U.S. was one of two superpowers. A return to a more multi-polar
world in certain ways induces a fair amount of moderation among big
players in the system, because people know they can’t get their way
unilaterally. And in the more multi-polar world we’d probably think
twice about doing things like Iraq. The more important question is: In
the global marketplace of ideas, how dominant will American ideas
about freedom and rule of law and democracy and our economic
model be? Our ideas will obviously be challenged; and it’s important
for the U.S. to put its own house in order, both politically and
economically, because that’s the most important way we exercise
influence around the world: The model we set.
SHAFFER: To revisit Our Posthuman Future, are there any
developments in bio-technologies in the past nine years that you find
particularly disturbing?
FUKUYAMA: Yes. The whole rise of synthetic biology, where
we’ve had new forms of life, and the ability to do new forms of life is
proceeding extremely rapidly. The creation of an artificial bacteria
itself is not immediately threatening, but it’s part of a long-term
process by which we’ll uncover the technologies for manufacturing
life, in ways that could have very serious security and moral
implications.
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