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9
People
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Organizations
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Locations
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Events
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Relationships
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Summary
This document is a transcript of a legal proceeding, likely a deposition, involving Ghislaine Maxwell, Todd Blanche, and David Markus. The discussion covers Maxwell's recollections of individuals from a past trial, Jeffrey Epstein's alleged connections to the FBI and other intelligence agencies, his business dealings, and his social connections, including meetings with the Royal Family and high society figures like Rosa Monckton, Princess Diana's best friend.
People (9)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Julian | Mentioned individual |
referred to as underage in a trial
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| Jane | Witness/Victim |
clearly underage in trial, saw her in Palm Beach with her mother
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| Mr. Epstein | Subject of discussion |
Jeffrey Epstein, discussed regarding communication with FBI, business, and connections to royalty
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| TODD BLANCHE | Interviewer/Questioner |
Asking questions during the proceeding
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| GHISLAINE MAXWELL | Deponent/Witness |
Answering questions during the proceeding
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| DAVID MARKUS | Interviewer/Questioner |
Asking questions during the proceeding
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| Princess Diana | Mentioned individual |
Her best friend, Rosa Monckton, is mentioned as someone Epstein knew
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| Rosa Monckton | Mentioned individual |
Described as Princess Diana's best friend, known by Epstein
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| Dominic Lawson | Mentioned individual |
Rosa Monckton's husband
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Organizations (4)
| Name | Type | Context |
|---|---|---|
| FBI |
Federal Bureau of Investigation, discussed as a potential agency Epstein communicated with or was a source for
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| CIA |
Central Intelligence Agency, mentioned in context of other intelligence agencies
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| Defense Intelligence |
Mentioned in context of other intelligence agencies
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| MAGNA LEGAL SERVICES |
Legal services provider, likely transcribed the document
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Timeline (3 events)
Mr. Epstein meeting members of the Royal Family.
Mr. Epstein
Royal Family
post-2000
Discussion about the changing relationship between Ghislaine Maxwell and Mr. Epstein after the year 2000.
Locations (2)
| Location | Context |
|---|---|
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Where Jane was seen with her mother
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Where Epstein lived for a period before Maxwell met him
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Relationships (9)
Julian and Jane mentioned in the same context regarding a trial and being underage.
Saw her in Palm Beach with her mother.
Discussion about whether Epstein communicated with or was a source for FBI agents.
Maxwell discusses her relationship with Epstein, his behavior around her, and his past connections.
Maxwell recalls Epstein showing her a photograph with African warlords.
Maxwell confirms Epstein met members of the Royal Family.
Maxwell states Epstein knew Rosa Monckton, Princess Diana's best friend.
Rosa Monckton is identified as Princess Diana's best friend.
Dominic Lawson is identified as Rosa Monckton's husband.
Key Quotes (4)
"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Bullshit."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think he was because I -- I think, well, sorry. I think that -- I think one of the reasons why he liked me was because of my, you know, my family connections and why he liked other people was because they were cool or whatever."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, he may have tried to bullshit me, but no, I couldn't."Source
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"GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Before I met Epstein, he lived in London for a period of time, I don't know for how long. And he met and knew some truly fancy people, like people -- high society people, that included Princess Diana's best friend. Her name was Rosa Monckton. And Rosa's husband, Dominic Lawson,"Source
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Page 126
1 important caveats. Well, on that -- but Julian
2 Jane, in my trial, was clearly underage, clearly a
3 child. And I only saw her in Palm Beach and I only
4 saw her with her mother.
5 The other person who's clearly also not an
6 adult or even close, DOJ REDACTION, I believe, I
7 remember her now. That would be the only two or
8 three, whatever that is.
9 TODD BLANCHE: So did you ever know
10 Mr. Epstein to communicate with FBI agents, either
11 like intelligence FBI agents, like as a source or
12 just generally with FBI agents?
13 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
14 TODD BLANCHE: Do you think if he had done
15 that, you would've known, like he would've told you
16 something like that? Like if I said to you,
17 Mr. Epstein was a source for the FBI, would you say,
18 that's crazy, no, he wasn't or maybe he was, I
19 would -- he wouldn't have told me that anyway.
20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I have two answers for
21 that. I think if he was for real, I think he
22 would've bragged about it to me as a show off,
23 because he could be a show off. And if he wasn't, he
24 might have dropped it like he was cool. And I don't
25 think -- I don't remember him doing either.
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1 Now, with, again, the caveat that in
2 his -- before I met him finding money, I think he may
3 have suggested that there was some people who helped
4 him, but that's the only context that I recall that
5 in.
6 TODD BLANCHE: What do you mean by that?
7 When you said "finding money," what do you mean?
8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, his business
9 where he -- remember I told you
10 TODD BLANCHE: Uh-huh.
11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I think in that
12 context, he made -- he showed me a photograph that he
13 had with some African warlords or something that he
14 told me. And, you know, I get -- I don't remember if
15 I -- that's what I interpreted the -- like that kind
16 of thing or whether it was something like that.
17 That's the only actual active memory I
18 have of something nefarious not nefarious. I
19 don't even know if it was nefarious, but covert, I
20 suppose would be the word.
21 TODD BLANCHE: And what about any other
22 intelligence agency, like the CIA or Defense
23 Intelligence or any other law enforcement agency?
24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. I don't think
25 so. I think that -- I don't remember anything like
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1 that. I just don't think he had the wherewithal and
2 I think that whole aspect of that is can I use a
3 bad word?
4 DAVID MARKUS: Yes.
5 TODD BLANCHE: Yes.
6 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Bullshit.
7 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. And what do you --
8 you think it's bullshit, meaning? What do you mean?
9 DAVID MARKUS: Would you have known if he
10 was -- would he have been bragging to you? Would he
11 have been saying these things.
12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think he was because
13 I -- I think, well, sorry. I think that -- I think
14 one of the reasons why he liked me was because of my,
15 you know, my family connections and why he liked
16 other people was because they were cool or whatever.
17 And I think that, certainly, early in when
18 I met him, he would've tried to impress me or tried
19 to show off, if you will. Like he was that guy, you
20 know, and he wasn't that guy. And so and I think
21 that he would've tried to bullshit me and he didn't,
22 so I think it's --
23 TODD BLANCHE: Did --
24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, he may have
25 tried to bullshit me, but no, I couldn't.
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1 TODD BLANCHE: Right.
2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry.
3 TODD BLANCHE: So I want to just shift for
4 a few minutes to talk about post-2000. 2000 to kind
5 of when your relationship changed over the years with
6 him.
7 Did there come a time when he,
8 Mr. Epstein, did meet members of the Royal Family?
9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
10 TODD BLANCHE: When was that?
11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So I need to go back,
12 because I think I may have misspoke --
13 but I --
14 TODD BLANCHE: Okay.
15 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I didn't misspeak
16 TODD BLANCHE: Yeah, go ahead.
17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: it's something that
18 I have forgotten.
19 TODD BLANCHE: Of course. Yeah.
20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Before I met Epstein,
21 he lived in London for a period of time, I don't know
22 for how long. And he met and knew some truly fancy
23 people, like people -- high society people, that
24 included Princess Diana's best friend. Her name was
25 Rosa Monckton. And Rosa's husband, Dominic Lawson,
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1 important caveats. Well, on that -- but Julian
2 Jane, in my trial, was clearly underage, clearly a
3 child. And I only saw her in Palm Beach and I only
4 saw her with her mother.
5 The other person who's clearly also not an
6 adult or even close, DOJ REDACTION, I believe, I
7 remember her now. That would be the only two or
8 three, whatever that is.
9 TODD BLANCHE: So did you ever know
10 Mr. Epstein to communicate with FBI agents, either
11 like intelligence FBI agents, like as a source or
12 just generally with FBI agents?
13 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No.
14 TODD BLANCHE: Do you think if he had done
15 that, you would've known, like he would've told you
16 something like that? Like if I said to you,
17 Mr. Epstein was a source for the FBI, would you say,
18 that's crazy, no, he wasn't or maybe he was, I
19 would -- he wouldn't have told me that anyway.
20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I have two answers for
21 that. I think if he was for real, I think he
22 would've bragged about it to me as a show off,
23 because he could be a show off. And if he wasn't, he
24 might have dropped it like he was cool. And I don't
25 think -- I don't remember him doing either.
Page 127
1 Now, with, again, the caveat that in
2 his -- before I met him finding money, I think he may
3 have suggested that there was some people who helped
4 him, but that's the only context that I recall that
5 in.
6 TODD BLANCHE: What do you mean by that?
7 When you said "finding money," what do you mean?
8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, his business
9 where he -- remember I told you
10 TODD BLANCHE: Uh-huh.
11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I think in that
12 context, he made -- he showed me a photograph that he
13 had with some African warlords or something that he
14 told me. And, you know, I get -- I don't remember if
15 I -- that's what I interpreted the -- like that kind
16 of thing or whether it was something like that.
17 That's the only actual active memory I
18 have of something nefarious not nefarious. I
19 don't even know if it was nefarious, but covert, I
20 suppose would be the word.
21 TODD BLANCHE: And what about any other
22 intelligence agency, like the CIA or Defense
23 Intelligence or any other law enforcement agency?
24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. I don't think
25 so. I think that -- I don't remember anything like
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1 that. I just don't think he had the wherewithal and
2 I think that whole aspect of that is can I use a
3 bad word?
4 DAVID MARKUS: Yes.
5 TODD BLANCHE: Yes.
6 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Bullshit.
7 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. And what do you --
8 you think it's bullshit, meaning? What do you mean?
9 DAVID MARKUS: Would you have known if he
10 was -- would he have been bragging to you? Would he
11 have been saying these things.
12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think he was because
13 I -- I think, well, sorry. I think that -- I think
14 one of the reasons why he liked me was because of my,
15 you know, my family connections and why he liked
16 other people was because they were cool or whatever.
17 And I think that, certainly, early in when
18 I met him, he would've tried to impress me or tried
19 to show off, if you will. Like he was that guy, you
20 know, and he wasn't that guy. And so and I think
21 that he would've tried to bullshit me and he didn't,
22 so I think it's --
23 TODD BLANCHE: Did --
24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, he may have
25 tried to bullshit me, but no, I couldn't.
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1 TODD BLANCHE: Right.
2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry.
3 TODD BLANCHE: So I want to just shift for
4 a few minutes to talk about post-2000. 2000 to kind
5 of when your relationship changed over the years with
6 him.
7 Did there come a time when he,
8 Mr. Epstein, did meet members of the Royal Family?
9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
10 TODD BLANCHE: When was that?
11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So I need to go back,
12 because I think I may have misspoke --
13 but I --
14 TODD BLANCHE: Okay.
15 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I didn't misspeak
16 TODD BLANCHE: Yeah, go ahead.
17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: it's something that
18 I have forgotten.
19 TODD BLANCHE: Of course. Yeah.
20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Before I met Epstein,
21 he lived in London for a period of time, I don't know
22 for how long. And he met and knew some truly fancy
23 people, like people -- high society people, that
24 included Princess Diana's best friend. Her name was
25 Rosa Monckton. And Rosa's husband, Dominic Lawson,
MAGNA
LEGAL SERVICES
33 (Pages 126 to 129)
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