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This document is a court transcript from February 15, 2012, for the case of United States v. Paul M. Daugerdas, et al. A witness, Ms. Conrad, is being questioned about providing conflicting residency information (Bronx vs. Bronxville) during jury selection. The questioning suggests she may have misrepresented her address to appear more 'marketable' as a juror and to potentially conceal a tumultuous home life.
People (6)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| PAUL M. DAUGERDAS | Named party in case |
Mentioned in the case title 'UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v. PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,'
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| Conrad | Witness |
The person being questioned under direct examination throughout the transcript.
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| Judge Pauley | Judge |
Mentioned as the judge to whom the witness (Conrad) swore on March 2nd that she lived in Bronxville.
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| MR. OKULA | Attorney |
Makes objections on behalf of the witness or a related party during the questioning.
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| THE COURT | Judge |
The presiding judge who rules on objections, referred to as 'THE COURT' and addressed as 'your Honor'.
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| Ms. Conrad | Witness |
A formal address for the witness, Conrad, used by the questioner.
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| UNITED STATES OF AMERICA | government agency |
The plaintiff in the case, as shown in the case title.
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS | company |
The court reporting service that transcribed the proceedings, mentioned at the bottom of the document.
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Timeline (4 events)
Witness Conrad swore to Judge Pauley on March 2nd that she lived in Bronxville.
Courtroom
Locations (3)
| Location | Context |
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A location where the witness, Conrad, claimed to have a residence, described as a more affluent community.
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A location where the witness, Conrad, has a residence, specifically on Barker Avenue.
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The specific street in the Bronx where the witness, Conrad, has lived for many years.
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Relationships (2)
The questioner alleges that Conrad and her husband are 'constantly, every day and night, engaged in screaming and fights and insults and threats'.
Key Quotes (5)
"Probably so I would be more marketable as a juror."Source
— Conrad
(Answering why she didn't tell the Court she lived in both the Bronx and Bronxville.)
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"Because you knew that you could be an unbiased juror, you decided to lie to get on a jury, is that right?"Source
— Unnamed Questioner
(Accusing the witness of intentionally lying about her residence to be selected for the jury.)
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Quote #2
"I consider myself having two residences."Source
— Conrad
(Her explanation for providing different addresses at different times.)
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"Because you and your husband are constantly, every day and night, engaged in screaming and fights and insults and threats, right?"Source
— Unnamed Questioner
(Questioning the witness about her home life, implying a motive to conceal her living situation.)
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Quote #4
"MR. OKULA: Objection, your Honor. Relevance."Source
— MR. OKULA
(Objecting to the line of questioning about the witness's domestic situation.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAEumDocument 616 Filed 02/24/12 Page 30 of 67
A-5648
A-5648
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v.
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
C2frdau5 Conrad - direct Page 153 February 15, 2012
1 I'm from there. I live there sometimes. I live at my Bronx
2 address also.
3 Q. Ma'am, my question is, did you say that you lived in
4 Bronxville in order to portray yourself as living in a more
5 affluent community than you actually live in?
6 A. No, not specifically, no.
7 Q. When you said a few minutes ago that the reason that you
8 gave the Bronxville address was because it was a little bit
9 more of an affluent community, that wasn't true?
10 A. My statement was true, but you're twisting it, obviously.
11 Q. Why don't you tell me why, having sworn to the bar
12 authorities on February 26th that you lived in the Bronx, you
13 swore to Judge Pauley on March 2nd that you lived in
14 Bronxville. Tell us why.
15 A. I consider myself living in both places.
16 Q. Why don't you tell the Court that you lived both places?
17 A. Probably so I would be more marketable as a juror.
18 Q. Have you done any jury trials as a lawyer?
19 A. Nonjury. No. One a few years ago.
20 Q. Why did you want to be more marketable as a juror?
21 A. Because I knew I could be fair and unbiased. As I did
22 mention a few minutes ago, I've been a plaintiff and a
23 defendant on both the civil and the criminal sides, and I have
24 also represented plaintiffs and defendants on both sides, and
25 been unemployed, out of the courtroom. And I had never had a
2 address also.
3 Q. Ma'am, my question is, did you say that you lived in
4 Bronxville in order to portray yourself as living in a more
5 affluent community than you actually live in?
6 A. No, not specifically, no.
7 Q. When you said a few minutes ago that the reason that you
8 gave the Bronxville address was because it was a little bit
9 more of an affluent community, that wasn't true?
10 A. My statement was true, but you're twisting it, obviously.
11 Q. Why don't you tell me why, having sworn to the bar
12 authorities on February 26th that you lived in the Bronx, you
13 swore to Judge Pauley on March 2nd that you lived in
14 Bronxville. Tell us why.
15 A. I consider myself living in both places.
16 Q. Why don't you tell the Court that you lived both places?
17 A. Probably so I would be more marketable as a juror.
18 Q. Have you done any jury trials as a lawyer?
19 A. Nonjury. No. One a few years ago.
20 Q. Why did you want to be more marketable as a juror?
21 A. Because I knew I could be fair and unbiased. As I did
22 mention a few minutes ago, I've been a plaintiff and a
23 defendant on both the civil and the criminal sides, and I have
24 also represented plaintiffs and defendants on both sides, and
25 been unemployed, out of the courtroom. And I had never had a
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1 tax shelter case or experience with tax law, and I knew I could
2 be an unbiased juror.
3 Q. Because you knew that you could be an unbiased juror, you
4 decided to lie to get on a jury, is that right?
5 A. Probably subconsciously.
6 Q. Subconsciously, Ms. Conrad, you wanted to do something
7 worthwhile, is that right?
8 MR. OKULA: Objection to the form, your Honor.
9 THE COURT: Overruled.
10 A. I don't know how you can characterize "worthwhile." If
11 it's sending a -- rendering a verdict which I felt was just,
12 then I can agree with you. But if there's something ulterior
13 to your question, I don't know how to answer that.
14 Q. When you started just then to say "sending a" and then you
15 stopped, were you going to say sending a criminal to jail? Is
16 that what you were about to say?
17 A. No.
18 Q. You wanted to be part of the process, didn't you, ma'am?
19 A. Sure.
20 Q. You wanted to be part of this process so badly that you
21 made yourself look like a different juror than you were,
22 different person than you were?
23 A. That's not for me to judge.
24 Q. Can we agree that you lied about where you resided on March
25 2nd?
2 be an unbiased juror.
3 Q. Because you knew that you could be an unbiased juror, you
4 decided to lie to get on a jury, is that right?
5 A. Probably subconsciously.
6 Q. Subconsciously, Ms. Conrad, you wanted to do something
7 worthwhile, is that right?
8 MR. OKULA: Objection to the form, your Honor.
9 THE COURT: Overruled.
10 A. I don't know how you can characterize "worthwhile." If
11 it's sending a -- rendering a verdict which I felt was just,
12 then I can agree with you. But if there's something ulterior
13 to your question, I don't know how to answer that.
14 Q. When you started just then to say "sending a" and then you
15 stopped, were you going to say sending a criminal to jail? Is
16 that what you were about to say?
17 A. No.
18 Q. You wanted to be part of the process, didn't you, ma'am?
19 A. Sure.
20 Q. You wanted to be part of this process so badly that you
21 made yourself look like a different juror than you were,
22 different person than you were?
23 A. That's not for me to judge.
24 Q. Can we agree that you lied about where you resided on March
25 2nd?
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1 A. I did not wake up in Bronxville that day, probably not.
2 Q. So you told a deliberate lie that day, correct?
3 A. No.
4 Q. Was it an accidental misstatement?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Was it an oversight?
7 MR. OKULA: Judge, we have been through this several
8 times.
9 THE COURT: Overruled.
10 A. No. I consider myself having two residences.
11 Q. Then why didn't you tell the truth when you were asked that
12 question?
13 A. I did.
14 Q. Did you say, I have two residences and, by the way, I've
15 been on both sides of criminal cases? Did you say that?
16 A. I wasn't asked that, sir.
17 Q. We'll come to that. Did you say that you had two
18 residences?
19 A. No.
20 Q. Did you tell the disciplinary authorities that you had two
21 residences?
22 A. They know.
23 Q. Did you tell the disciplinary authorities in your affidavit
24 that you resided in Bronxville?
25 A. Not in this one.
2 Q. So you told a deliberate lie that day, correct?
3 A. No.
4 Q. Was it an accidental misstatement?
5 A. No.
6 Q. Was it an oversight?
7 MR. OKULA: Judge, we have been through this several
8 times.
9 THE COURT: Overruled.
10 A. No. I consider myself having two residences.
11 Q. Then why didn't you tell the truth when you were asked that
12 question?
13 A. I did.
14 Q. Did you say, I have two residences and, by the way, I've
15 been on both sides of criminal cases? Did you say that?
16 A. I wasn't asked that, sir.
17 Q. We'll come to that. Did you say that you had two
18 residences?
19 A. No.
20 Q. Did you tell the disciplinary authorities that you had two
21 residences?
22 A. They know.
23 Q. Did you tell the disciplinary authorities in your affidavit
24 that you resided in Bronxville?
25 A. Not in this one.
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1 Q. Not in this one. Do you remember that a couple of years
2 before this you were sworn to give a deposition under oath?
3 A. March 24, 2009.
4 Q. You do remember, don't you.
5 A. Yes, I do.
6 Q. You were asked where you lived, weren't you?
7 A. Probably.
8 Q. You said, truthfully, that you lived on Barker Avenue in
9 the Bronx, didn't you?
10 A. I don't recall specifically.
11 Q. Ma'am, you've lived on Barker Avenue in the Bronx for many
12 years, isn't that true?
13 A. Sure.
14 Q. And every one of your neighbors on the third floor knows
15 who you are, don't they?
16 A. Probably.
17 Q. Because you and your husband are constantly, every day and
18 night, engaged in screaming and fights and insults and threats,
19 right?
20 MR. OKULA: Objection, your Honor. Relevance.
21 THE COURT: Overruled.
22 A. Probably.
23 Q. Yeah, probably. The police are there all the time, aren't
24 they?
25 A. No.
2 before this you were sworn to give a deposition under oath?
3 A. March 24, 2009.
4 Q. You do remember, don't you.
5 A. Yes, I do.
6 Q. You were asked where you lived, weren't you?
7 A. Probably.
8 Q. You said, truthfully, that you lived on Barker Avenue in
9 the Bronx, didn't you?
10 A. I don't recall specifically.
11 Q. Ma'am, you've lived on Barker Avenue in the Bronx for many
12 years, isn't that true?
13 A. Sure.
14 Q. And every one of your neighbors on the third floor knows
15 who you are, don't they?
16 A. Probably.
17 Q. Because you and your husband are constantly, every day and
18 night, engaged in screaming and fights and insults and threats,
19 right?
20 MR. OKULA: Objection, your Honor. Relevance.
21 THE COURT: Overruled.
22 A. Probably.
23 Q. Yeah, probably. The police are there all the time, aren't
24 they?
25 A. No.
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