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Summary
This document is a court transcript from January 15, 2025, detailing the cross-examination of a witness named Rocchio. An attorney questions Rocchio about the scientific validity and testing of a sexual grooming model (SGM), referencing the model's authors' calls for more rigorous testing. The attorney also brings up an article by Bennett and O'Donohue to suggest a lack of scientific consensus on the definition of grooming.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Rocchio | Witness |
Mentioned in the header as the person being cross-examined. Provides answers ('A.') throughout the transcript.
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| MR. PAGLIUCA | Attorney |
Speaks on line 21, directing the court to an exhibit.
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| Bennett | Author |
Mentioned as a co-author of opinions or an article regarding grooming.
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| O'Donohue | Author |
Mentioned as a co-author with Bennett of opinions or an article regarding grooming.
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Organizations (1)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. | company |
Listed at the bottom of the page as the court reporting service.
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Timeline (1 events)
2025-01-15
A witness, Rocchio, is being cross-examined about the scientific testing of a sexual grooming model (SGM) and the opinions of various authors on the subject.
Courtroom (implied)
Relationships (2)
The document is a transcript of a formal cross-examination where an attorney (Questioner) is questioning a witness (Rocchio) in a legal proceeding.
Key Quotes (3)
"The model should undergo rigorous testing to ensure the stages accurately represent the complex process of sexual grooming."Source
— Questioner (quoting a source)
(Quoted by the questioner to the witness, Rocchio, from a document they are reviewing.)
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Quote #1
"Further, a standardized measure of grooming behaviors should be developed based on behaviors and stages delineated in the SGM,"Source
— Questioner (quoting a source)
(A second quote read by the questioner to the witness from the same document.)
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"That's not my reading of the paper, no."Source
— Rocchio (witness)
(The witness's response when asked if the authors of a paper stated that the current model isn't sufficient for evidence-based testimony.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 134 of 158 134
LBAAMAX5ps Rocchio - Cross
LBAAMAX5ps Rocchio - Cross
1 Q. Yes. "The model should undergo rigorous testing to ensure
2 the stages accurately represent the complex process of sexual
3 grooming." Do you see that?
4 A. I do.
5 Q. "Further, a standardized measure of grooming behaviors
6 should be developed based on behaviors and stages delineated in
7 the SGM," which is what they're talking about here. Right?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. So as we stand here today, there has been no further
10 rigorous testing of this model that you're aware of. Correct?
11 A. There is an enormous amount of testing and scientific study
12 that led up to this particular model. I'm not aware -- I
13 don't -- I can't speak as to whether or not they've done
14 research subsequent to this, no.
15 Q. But even these authors say that this isn't good enough for
16 evidence-based grooming testimony. Right?
17 A. That's not my reading of the paper, no.
18 Q. OK. And you don't -- have you ever asked these authors
19 about their opinion?
20 A. No, I have not.
21 MR. PAGLIUCA: If we can turn to Exhibit 4, please.
22 Q. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. You've
23 talked about it. This is the Bennett and O'Donohue opinions,
24 or article, in which Bennett and O'Donohue say that there's a
25 lack of consensus regarding what grooming is and talk about it
2 the stages accurately represent the complex process of sexual
3 grooming." Do you see that?
4 A. I do.
5 Q. "Further, a standardized measure of grooming behaviors
6 should be developed based on behaviors and stages delineated in
7 the SGM," which is what they're talking about here. Right?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. So as we stand here today, there has been no further
10 rigorous testing of this model that you're aware of. Correct?
11 A. There is an enormous amount of testing and scientific study
12 that led up to this particular model. I'm not aware -- I
13 don't -- I can't speak as to whether or not they've done
14 research subsequent to this, no.
15 Q. But even these authors say that this isn't good enough for
16 evidence-based grooming testimony. Right?
17 A. That's not my reading of the paper, no.
18 Q. OK. And you don't -- have you ever asked these authors
19 about their opinion?
20 A. No, I have not.
21 MR. PAGLIUCA: If we can turn to Exhibit 4, please.
22 Q. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. You've
23 talked about it. This is the Bennett and O'Donohue opinions,
24 or article, in which Bennett and O'Donohue say that there's a
25 lack of consensus regarding what grooming is and talk about it
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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