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This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE) featuring the direct examination of a witness named Ms. Brune. The testimony covers the credibility of government witnesses (lawyers who pleaded guilty to false statements to the IRS), the division of labor regarding jury selection between Brune and Theresa Trzaskoma, and a specific conversation they had at 'the plaza' regarding potential information.
People (3)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Ms. Brune | Witness / Attorney |
Testifying on direct examination; states she was in charge of jury selection.
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| Theresa Trzaskoma | Partner / Attorney |
Mentioned as the partner in charge of the detail work for jury selection; had a conversation with Brune.
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| Unidentified Questioner | Attorney |
Conducting the examination (Q.)
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Organizations (3)
| Name | Type | Context |
|---|---|---|
| IRS |
Mentioned in relation to government witnesses pleading guilty to making false statements.
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Transcription service listed in footer.
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| DOJ |
Department of Justice (referenced in Bates stamp DOJ-OGR).
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Timeline (2 events)
Locations (1)
| Location | Context |
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Location where a conversation between Brune and Trzaskoma took place.
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Relationships (1)
Worked together on jury selection; Brune was in charge, Trzaskoma handled detail work.
Key Quotes (4)
"It's certainly so that many of the government witnesses were lawyers and that some of them had pleaded guilty."Source
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"it's certainly not inconceivable that lawyers lie."Source
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"I was in charge of the jury selection. But you're right, she was closer to it than I."Source
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"Did she tell you in that conversation that she had had basically an 'oh, Jesus' moment?"Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 166-2 Filed 02/24/22 Page 53 of 130
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C2GFDAU1 Brune - direct
1 A. Okay, that's fine. It's certainly so that many of the
2 government witnesses were lawyers and that some of them had
3 pleaded guilty.
4 Q. And their pleas included pleas to making false statements
5 to the IRS, correct?
6 A. That's true.
7 Q. So it's not inconceivable that attorneys lie, correct?
8 A. I don't think that's what I said, but it's certainly not
9 inconceivable that lawyers lie.
10 Q. And at the end of that conversation, you told Theresa
11 Trzaskoma to leave it, correct?
12 A. I don't remember the words, but something to that effect.
13 Q. Now, she had been the partner in charge of the jury
14 selection, correct, in terms of the detail work?
15 A. I was in charge of the jury selection. But you're right,
16 she was closer to it than I.
17 Q. Did she tell you in that conversation that she had had
18 basically an "oh, Jesus" moment?
19 A. She certainly did not say that.
20 Q. There was a possibility, Ms. Brune, that this was in fact
21 true information. As you're standing there out in the plaza,
22 that information existed, correct?
23 A. I didn't believe that at the time.
24 Q. Well, you didn't know, bottom line is you didn't know one
25 way or the other, correct?
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
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C2GFDAU1 Brune - direct
1 A. Okay, that's fine. It's certainly so that many of the
2 government witnesses were lawyers and that some of them had
3 pleaded guilty.
4 Q. And their pleas included pleas to making false statements
5 to the IRS, correct?
6 A. That's true.
7 Q. So it's not inconceivable that attorneys lie, correct?
8 A. I don't think that's what I said, but it's certainly not
9 inconceivable that lawyers lie.
10 Q. And at the end of that conversation, you told Theresa
11 Trzaskoma to leave it, correct?
12 A. I don't remember the words, but something to that effect.
13 Q. Now, she had been the partner in charge of the jury
14 selection, correct, in terms of the detail work?
15 A. I was in charge of the jury selection. But you're right,
16 she was closer to it than I.
17 Q. Did she tell you in that conversation that she had had
18 basically an "oh, Jesus" moment?
19 A. She certainly did not say that.
20 Q. There was a possibility, Ms. Brune, that this was in fact
21 true information. As you're standing there out in the plaza,
22 that information existed, correct?
23 A. I didn't believe that at the time.
24 Q. Well, you didn't know, bottom line is you didn't know one
25 way or the other, correct?
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
DOJ-OGR-00009344
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