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This document is a court transcript from February 15, 2012, detailing the cross-examination of a juror named Conrad regarding their service in a trial involving defendant David Parse. The questioning probes Conrad's impartiality, focusing on a post-verdict letter, their initial belief in the defendant's guilt, and whether their own past criminal history (including arrests for DUI and shoplifting) biased their judgment. Conrad consistently affirms that their final decision was based solely on the evidence and Judge Pauley's legal instructions, and that their personal history did not affect their ability to be fair and impartial.
People (6)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Conrad | Witness / Juror |
The individual being cross-examined about their role as a juror in a previous trial.
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| Paul M. Daugerdas | Defendant |
Named in the case title 'UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,'.
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| Mr. Gair | Attorney |
Mentioned as an attorney who previously questioned Conrad about statements made regarding David Parse and about Conra...
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| David Parse | Defendant |
A defendant in the trial where Conrad served as a juror. Conrad initially believed Mr. Parse should have been found g...
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| Mr. Schectman | Attorney |
Mentioned as an attorney who, along with Mr. Gair, questioned Conrad about their prior criminal cases.
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| Judge Pauley | Judge |
The judge who provided legal instructions and a jury charge in the trial where Conrad was a juror.
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Organizations (3)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| UNITED STATES OF AMERICA | Government agency |
The plaintiff in the case, as indicated by the case title.
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| IRS | Government agency |
Mentioned in the context of IRS agents, whom Conrad confirmed they did not know.
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS | Company |
Listed at the bottom of the document, likely the court reporting service that transcribed the proceedings.
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Timeline (4 events)
A trial in which Conrad served as a juror and David Parse was a defendant.
Locations (1)
| Location | Context |
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Mentioned as the location where Conrad was arrested for a disorderly conduct offense.
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Relationships (4)
Conrad served as a juror in a trial where David Parse was a defendant. Conrad initially believed Parse was guilty but changed their mind based on the judge's instructions.
Conrad received legal instructions and a jury charge from Judge Pauley during the trial, which Conrad states formed the basis of their final conclusion.
Mr. Gair is an attorney who questioned Conrad about their role in the trial and their past.
Mr. Schectman is an attorney who questioned Conrad about their past criminal cases.
Key Quotes (3)
"Q. So is it fair to say that when you personally deliberated with respect to Mr. Parse, you reached your conclusion based on the legal instruction that Judge Pauley gave you and without bias to any side. Fair? A. 100 percent. Correct."Source
— Questioning Attorney and Conrad
(Conrad affirming that their final verdict was based on the judge's instructions and was without bias.)
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"Q. Did the fact that you were a criminal defendant in a prior case affect you from fairly and impartially judging the evidence in this case and weighing and applying Judge Pauley's legal instruction? A. Absolutely not."Source
— Questioning Attorney and Conrad
(Conrad denying that their personal history as a criminal defendant affected their impartiality as a juror.)
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"Q. And is it also fair, Ms. Conrad, that your involvement in those criminal cases did not cause you to be biased in one matter or another against any party or any attorney in this case? A. That's correct."Source
— Questioning Attorney and Conrad
(Conrad confirming that their prior criminal cases, which were unrelated to the trial's subject matter, did not cause any bias.)
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAEum Document 616-201 Filed 02/24/22 Page 45 of 67
A-5663
A-5663
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
February 15, 2012
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - cross Page 213
1 before you started hearing any evidence, is that correct? In
2 other words, you hadn't prejudged the case after you were
3 selected that you were going to find the defendants guilty or
4 rule in favor of the government, is that correct?
5 A. That's correct, yes.
6 Q. And is it also true that you didn't make up your mind with
7 respect to the guilt or innocence of any of the defendants
8 until you heard all the evidence in the case and listened to
9 the judge's instructions, is that fair?
10 A. Absolutely.
11 Q. Let me pick up on a section where Mr. Gair was asking you
12 about things you said with respect to David Parse. Do you
13 remember those questions?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. And Mr. Gair referenced the letter that you sent to me
16 after the return of the verdict, do you remember that?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. And you were also asked questions about the fact that you
19 referred to fighting the good fight. Do you recall that?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Without getting into your deliberations with the other
22 jurors, is it correct that as you said in the letter that you
23 viewed initially during your, when you began deliberating, that
24 Mr. Parse should have been found guilty?
25 A. Yes.
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - cross Page 213
1 before you started hearing any evidence, is that correct? In
2 other words, you hadn't prejudged the case after you were
3 selected that you were going to find the defendants guilty or
4 rule in favor of the government, is that correct?
5 A. That's correct, yes.
6 Q. And is it also true that you didn't make up your mind with
7 respect to the guilt or innocence of any of the defendants
8 until you heard all the evidence in the case and listened to
9 the judge's instructions, is that fair?
10 A. Absolutely.
11 Q. Let me pick up on a section where Mr. Gair was asking you
12 about things you said with respect to David Parse. Do you
13 remember those questions?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. And Mr. Gair referenced the letter that you sent to me
16 after the return of the verdict, do you remember that?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. And you were also asked questions about the fact that you
19 referred to fighting the good fight. Do you recall that?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Without getting into your deliberations with the other
22 jurors, is it correct that as you said in the letter that you
23 viewed initially during your, when you began deliberating, that
24 Mr. Parse should have been found guilty?
25 A. Yes.
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - cross Page 215
1 A. No.
2 Q. Now, Mr. Gair went through and Mr. Schectman did also to
3 some extent some of your criminal cases with you. Do you
4 remember that?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. For instance, you went through your driving under the
7 influence offenses and your harassment offense, the contempt
8 offense and the shoplifting offenses. Do you remember that?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. And were you also asked about the disorderly conduct
11 offense that you were arrested for that you didn't appear on in
12 Winslow, Arizona. Do you recall that?
13 A. Yes, sir.
14 Q. Now, none of those cases, Ms. Conrad, had anything to do
15 with the subject matter involved in this trial, correct?
16 A. That's correct.
17 Q. In other words, these offenses, those local offenses that
18 you were arrested for, none of them had anything to do with
19 taxes or tax evasion or tax shelters, is that fair?
20 A. That's correct.
21 Q. And is it also fair, Ms. Conrad, that your involvement in
22 those criminal cases did not cause you to be biased in one
23 matter or another against any party or any attorney in this
24 case?
25 A. That's correct.
1 A. No.
2 Q. Now, Mr. Gair went through and Mr. Schectman did also to
3 some extent some of your criminal cases with you. Do you
4 remember that?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. For instance, you went through your driving under the
7 influence offenses and your harassment offense, the contempt
8 offense and the shoplifting offenses. Do you remember that?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. And were you also asked about the disorderly conduct
11 offense that you were arrested for that you didn't appear on in
12 Winslow, Arizona. Do you recall that?
13 A. Yes, sir.
14 Q. Now, none of those cases, Ms. Conrad, had anything to do
15 with the subject matter involved in this trial, correct?
16 A. That's correct.
17 Q. In other words, these offenses, those local offenses that
18 you were arrested for, none of them had anything to do with
19 taxes or tax evasion or tax shelters, is that fair?
20 A. That's correct.
21 Q. And is it also fair, Ms. Conrad, that your involvement in
22 those criminal cases did not cause you to be biased in one
23 matter or another against any party or any attorney in this
24 case?
25 A. That's correct.
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - cross Page 214
1 Q. And you also note in your letter, though, that you
2 ultimately relented after hearing a jury charge from Judge
3 Pauley about the definition of knowingly and willfully,
4 correct?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. So is it fair to say that when you personally deliberated
7 with respect to Mr. Parse, you reached your conclusion based on
8 the legal instruction that Judge Pauley gave you and without
9 bias to any side. Fair?
10 A. 100 percent. Correct.
11 Q. Now, when you were selected to serve on the jury, did you
12 have any personal knowledge with respect to any of the
13 defendants in this case?
14 A. No, none.
15 Q. And is it also fair that you didn't have any personal
16 knowledge of any of the defense lawyers, correct?
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. You didn't know any of the prosecutors in the case or any
19 of the IRS agents, correct?
20 A. No. That's correct.
21 Q. And you weren't factually involved in any of the underlying
22 events at trial, correct?
23 A. Never.
24 Q. And did you have any financial motive in the outcome of the
25 case?
1 Q. And you also note in your letter, though, that you
2 ultimately relented after hearing a jury charge from Judge
3 Pauley about the definition of knowingly and willfully,
4 correct?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. So is it fair to say that when you personally deliberated
7 with respect to Mr. Parse, you reached your conclusion based on
8 the legal instruction that Judge Pauley gave you and without
9 bias to any side. Fair?
10 A. 100 percent. Correct.
11 Q. Now, when you were selected to serve on the jury, did you
12 have any personal knowledge with respect to any of the
13 defendants in this case?
14 A. No, none.
15 Q. And is it also fair that you didn't have any personal
16 knowledge of any of the defense lawyers, correct?
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. You didn't know any of the prosecutors in the case or any
19 of the IRS agents, correct?
20 A. No. That's correct.
21 Q. And you weren't factually involved in any of the underlying
22 events at trial, correct?
23 A. Never.
24 Q. And did you have any financial motive in the outcome of the
25 case?
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - cross Page 216
1 Q. Now, let me ask you this, Ms. Conrad. Did the fact that
2 you were a criminal defendant in a prior case affect you from
3 fairly and impartially judging the evidence in this case and
4 weighing and applying Judge Pauley's legal instruction?
5 A. Absolutely not.
6 Q. Did the fact that you were arrested by a police officer on
7 a number of occasions in your criminal cases in any way affect
8 your ability to be fair and impartial?
9 A. No.
10 Q. Did your involvement in the disciplinary proceedings where
11 lawyers made complaints about you and you were asked questions
12 by disciplinary counsel, did that affect your ability to
13 carefully and appropriately and fairly weigh the evidence and
14 the legal instructions in this case?
15 A. No, not at all.
16 Q. Did the fact that you were a suspended attorney affect your
17 impartiality in this case?
18 A. No.
19 Q. Now, do you remember you received legal instructions from
20 Judge Pauley on a number of occasions during the case, both
21 during voir dire at the beginning of the trial and at the end
22 of the trial?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And in particular, do you remember a jury instruction that
25 went somewhat, I know it's a long time ago and you may not
1 Q. Now, let me ask you this, Ms. Conrad. Did the fact that
2 you were a criminal defendant in a prior case affect you from
3 fairly and impartially judging the evidence in this case and
4 weighing and applying Judge Pauley's legal instruction?
5 A. Absolutely not.
6 Q. Did the fact that you were arrested by a police officer on
7 a number of occasions in your criminal cases in any way affect
8 your ability to be fair and impartial?
9 A. No.
10 Q. Did your involvement in the disciplinary proceedings where
11 lawyers made complaints about you and you were asked questions
12 by disciplinary counsel, did that affect your ability to
13 carefully and appropriately and fairly weigh the evidence and
14 the legal instructions in this case?
15 A. No, not at all.
16 Q. Did the fact that you were a suspended attorney affect your
17 impartiality in this case?
18 A. No.
19 Q. Now, do you remember you received legal instructions from
20 Judge Pauley on a number of occasions during the case, both
21 during voir dire at the beginning of the trial and at the end
22 of the trial?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. And in particular, do you remember a jury instruction that
25 went somewhat, I know it's a long time ago and you may not
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