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Extraction Summary
8
People
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Organizations
1
Locations
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Events
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Relationships
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Document Information
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Deposition transcript
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Summary
This document contains pages 114-117 of a deposition transcript, likely of Scott Rothstein. The witness admits to running a Ponzi scheme where he sold fake legal settlements to investors. He utilized legitimate legal cases involving Jeffrey Epstein (specifically cases involving underage girls) as 'props' to pitch to investors, making up fictitious details about settlements. He states he did not care about the background of the victims (whether they were underage or had histories of prostitution) because the settlements were fake. He also implicates Russell Adler as a co-conspirator who provided details about plaintiffs traveling on Epstein's plane.
People (8)
| Name | Role | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Mr. Rothstein | Witness/Deponent |
Scott Rothstein (inferred), admitting to a Ponzi scheme and using Epstein cases as a prop for fake settlements.
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| Mr. Goldberger | Interviewer/Attorney |
Conducting the questioning from Page 115 onwards.
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| Mr. LaVecchio | Attorney |
Requests a discussion off the record.
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| Mr. Edwards | Associate/Employee |
Employee of the firm who received bonuses; Rothstein claims he was unaware of the Ponzi scheme.
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| Russell Adler | Co-conspirator |
Lawyer/Associate who told Rothstein that plaintiffs had traveled on Epstein's airplane.
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| CFO | Co-conspirator |
Unnamed female CFO who managed the money pots for the scheme.
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| Jeffrey Epstein | Subject of litigation |
His legal cases were used as 'props' to sell fake settlements to investors.
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| Plaintiffs/Women | Victims |
Epstein victims represented by the firm; discussed regarding their age ('underage') and alleged history of prostitution.
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
|---|---|---|
| Clockwork group |
Group brought into the scheme; used for timing analysis of payroll records.
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| Friedman, Lombardi & Olson |
Court reporting firm listed in the footer.
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Timeline (1 events)
Unknown
Deposition of Scott Rothstein regarding the Ponzi scheme and Epstein cases.
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Locations (1)
| Location | Context |
|---|---|
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Places where the plaintiffs may have allegedly worked in the past.
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Relationships (3)
Referred to as 'co-conspirator' in questioning; Adler provided info on plaintiffs.
Edwards received bonuses; Rothstein claims Edwards was unaware of the scheme.
Rothstein used Epstein's legal cases as a tool/prop to sell fake settlements to investors.
Key Quotes (5)
"I utilized all those boxes all together. I don't remember which one I sold them."Source
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"It's something completely fictitious that I made up that I told them."Source
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"They may have told me that, I wouldn't have cared one way or the other... It had nothing to do with the sale of the Ponzi scheme settlements."Source
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"Mr. Adler did, in fact, tell me that certain [plaintiffs had traveled on Mr. Epstein's airplane]"Source
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"I mean, you know, illegal money was used for legitimate purposes, correct? A. Yes."Source
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Page 114
1 A. Clockwork.
2 Q. So we would look at when the Clockwork group
3 was brought into this and the Epstein case was used
4 then and then we would look at the payroll records to
5 see whether Mr. Edwards got a bonus after the
6 Clockwork group was brought into the Ponzi scheme,
7 correct?
8 A. From a timing perspective, yes. But
9 Mr. Edwards had nothing to do with the Ponzi scheme,
10 nor was he rewarded even surreptitiously without his
11 knowledge for helping me with the Ponzi scheme. If he
12 was rewarded it was because he deserved, I felt he
13 deserved a reward, having nothing to do with the Ponzi
14 scheme. The bulk of this law firm had nothing to do
15 with the Ponzi scheme.
16 Q. I think you testified already, though, that
17 money was fundable in the firm, right? I mean, you
18 know, illegal money was used for legitimate purposes,
19 correct?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Okay. So, for example, investigations that
22 were done with the Epstein case, it's very possible
23 that legitimate Ponzi money was used to finance those
24 investigations?
25 A. I'd be guessing. It's certainly possible
1 A. Clockwork.
2 Q. So we would look at when the Clockwork group
3 was brought into this and the Epstein case was used
4 then and then we would look at the payroll records to
5 see whether Mr. Edwards got a bonus after the
6 Clockwork group was brought into the Ponzi scheme,
7 correct?
8 A. From a timing perspective, yes. But
9 Mr. Edwards had nothing to do with the Ponzi scheme,
10 nor was he rewarded even surreptitiously without his
11 knowledge for helping me with the Ponzi scheme. If he
12 was rewarded it was because he deserved, I felt he
13 deserved a reward, having nothing to do with the Ponzi
14 scheme. The bulk of this law firm had nothing to do
15 with the Ponzi scheme.
16 Q. I think you testified already, though, that
17 money was fundable in the firm, right? I mean, you
18 know, illegal money was used for legitimate purposes,
19 correct?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. Okay. So, for example, investigations that
22 were done with the Epstein case, it's very possible
23 that legitimate Ponzi money was used to finance those
24 investigations?
25 A. I'd be guessing. It's certainly possible
Page 115
1 because all the money went into a whole series of
2 pots, and if you look at, most of the pots were trust
3 accounts. If you look back, you look to see what my
4 CFO, who was also a co-conspirator was doing, she was
5 pulling the money from wherever she needed to to fund
6 whatever she needed to fund.
7 MR. LAVECCHIO: Off the record a second.
8 [Discussion off the record.]
9 BY MR. GOLDBERGER:
10 Q. Let me circle back to what you needed to
11 learn about the Epstein cases to help make your pitch
12 to the investors.
13 You talked about the manifest already,
14 correct, the flight manifest?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. Okay. What else did you want to learn about
17 the case or what else did you learn about the case so
18 that you were conversant when you spoke to the
19 investors about the Epstein case?
20 A. I recall asking someone what the causes of
21 action were.
22 Q. Okay. Did you understand what they were?
23 A. I likely did at the time, I don't remember
24 what they were now.
25 Q. Okay. Do you know which case we are talking
1 because all the money went into a whole series of
2 pots, and if you look at, most of the pots were trust
3 accounts. If you look back, you look to see what my
4 CFO, who was also a co-conspirator was doing, she was
5 pulling the money from wherever she needed to to fund
6 whatever she needed to fund.
7 MR. LAVECCHIO: Off the record a second.
8 [Discussion off the record.]
9 BY MR. GOLDBERGER:
10 Q. Let me circle back to what you needed to
11 learn about the Epstein cases to help make your pitch
12 to the investors.
13 You talked about the manifest already,
14 correct, the flight manifest?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. Okay. What else did you want to learn about
17 the case or what else did you learn about the case so
18 that you were conversant when you spoke to the
19 investors about the Epstein case?
20 A. I recall asking someone what the causes of
21 action were.
22 Q. Okay. Did you understand what they were?
23 A. I likely did at the time, I don't remember
24 what they were now.
25 Q. Okay. Do you know which case we are talking
Page 116
1 about? By the way, you had a number of Epstein cases
2 in-house, do you know which case you were talking
3 about?
4 A. As I sit here today, no, sir, I don't
5 remember.
6 Q. Was it a state case or a federal case?
7 A. I don't remember one way or the other.
8 Q. All right.
9 A. I utilized all those boxes all together. I
10 don't remember which one I sold them.
11 Q. And the exhibits --
12 A. It's something completely fictitious that I
13 made up that I told them.
14 Q. The exhibit that you were shown earlier,
15 Exhibit Number 1, that's the long multi-page federal
16 lawsuit. Do you know whether that was part of the
17 information that you reviewed or shown to the
18 investors when you were pitching to them?
19 A. I do not remember one way or the other.
20 Q. Okay. Now, did you make any effort to learn
21 from your co-conspirator who the plaintiffs were in
22 this case, what kind of women they were?
23 A. Only that they were underage.
24 Q. Did anyone tell you that these women had --
25 some of these women had a history of prostitution?
1 about? By the way, you had a number of Epstein cases
2 in-house, do you know which case you were talking
3 about?
4 A. As I sit here today, no, sir, I don't
5 remember.
6 Q. Was it a state case or a federal case?
7 A. I don't remember one way or the other.
8 Q. All right.
9 A. I utilized all those boxes all together. I
10 don't remember which one I sold them.
11 Q. And the exhibits --
12 A. It's something completely fictitious that I
13 made up that I told them.
14 Q. The exhibit that you were shown earlier,
15 Exhibit Number 1, that's the long multi-page federal
16 lawsuit. Do you know whether that was part of the
17 information that you reviewed or shown to the
18 investors when you were pitching to them?
19 A. I do not remember one way or the other.
20 Q. Okay. Now, did you make any effort to learn
21 from your co-conspirator who the plaintiffs were in
22 this case, what kind of women they were?
23 A. Only that they were underage.
24 Q. Did anyone tell you that these women had --
25 some of these women had a history of prostitution?
Page 117
1 A. They may have told me that, I wouldn't have
2 cared one way or the other.
3 Q. Why would you not have cared about that,
4 Mr. Rothstein?
5 A. It had nothing to do with the sale of the
6 Ponzi scheme settlements.
7 Q. Okay. Were you told by anyone whether any
8 of the women involved as plaintiffs in the case may
9 have worked at adult clubs in the past? I mean strip
10 clubs, let's call it what it is.
11 A. I may have been told that one way or the
12 other. But again, it had nothing to do with the Ponzi
13 scheme sale of fake settlements.
14 Q. As part of the information that you were
15 told by you co-conspirator, Russell Adler, were you
16 told that some of the plaintiffs that you had in-house
17 had travelled on Mr. Epstein's airplane?
18 A. I believe Russ did tell me that.
19 Q. You know, in fact, that that was not true,
20 correct?
21 A. I have no idea one way or the other, nor did
22 I care.
23 Q. But your co-conspirator told you that,
24 right?
25 A. Mr. Adler did, in fact, tell me that certain
1 A. They may have told me that, I wouldn't have
2 cared one way or the other.
3 Q. Why would you not have cared about that,
4 Mr. Rothstein?
5 A. It had nothing to do with the sale of the
6 Ponzi scheme settlements.
7 Q. Okay. Were you told by anyone whether any
8 of the women involved as plaintiffs in the case may
9 have worked at adult clubs in the past? I mean strip
10 clubs, let's call it what it is.
11 A. I may have been told that one way or the
12 other. But again, it had nothing to do with the Ponzi
13 scheme sale of fake settlements.
14 Q. As part of the information that you were
15 told by you co-conspirator, Russell Adler, were you
16 told that some of the plaintiffs that you had in-house
17 had travelled on Mr. Epstein's airplane?
18 A. I believe Russ did tell me that.
19 Q. You know, in fact, that that was not true,
20 correct?
21 A. I have no idea one way or the other, nor did
22 I care.
23 Q. But your co-conspirator told you that,
24 right?
25 A. Mr. Adler did, in fact, tell me that certain
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