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This document is a transcript from the case 'United States v. Paul M. Daugerdas' dated February 15, 2012, but released within an Epstein-related document dump (DOJ-OGR-00009262). It features the cross-examination of a witness, Ms. Conrad (also known as Rosa), regarding a letter she wrote to prosecutor Mr. Okula on May 25, 2011, the day after a verdict was reached in a previous trial where she served as a juror. The questioning focuses on her anxiety to speak with the prosecution, discrepancies between her physical location (Barker Avenue) and the return address used (Parkview Drive), and her failure to contact defense attorneys.

People (6)

Name Role Context
Ms. Conrad Witness
Being examined under oath; uses the name 'Rosa' (married name); served as a juror in a previous trial.
Mr. Gair Attorney
Conducting the direct examination of Ms. Conrad.
Paul M. Daugerdas Defendant
Named in the case caption (United States of America v. Paul M. Daugerdas, et al.).
Mr. Okula Prosecutor
Received a letter from Ms. Conrad; present in the courtroom.
Judge Pauley Judge
Presided over the trial where Ms. Conrad was a juror; came into the jury room to speak with jurors.
Rosa Alias/Name
Ms. Conrad's married name used on her driver's license.

Organizations (2)

Name Type Context
United States of America
Prosecuting party in the case header.
Southern District Reporters
Transcription service listed in the footer.

Timeline (3 events)

February 15, 2012
Court testimony/deposition of Ms. Conrad.
Southern District Court
Ms. Conrad Mr. Gair The Court
May 24, 2011
Verdict delivered in the trial where Ms. Conrad was a juror.
Courtroom/Jury Room
Ms. Conrad Judge Pauley Other Jurors
May 25, 2011
Ms. Conrad wrote a letter to prosecutor Mr. Okula.
2385 South Barker Avenue

Locations (3)

Location Context
Location where the witness was sitting (with her cat) when she wrote the letter.
Address in Bronxville, New York. Used as the return address on the letter; identified as the witness's parents' home.
City associated with the Parkview Drive address.

Relationships (2)

Ms. Conrad Juror/Prosecutor Mr. Okula
Conrad wrote a letter to Okula immediately after the verdict expressing desire to speak.
Ms. Conrad Juror/Judge Judge Pauley
Judge Pauley came into the jury room to speak with jurors after the verdict.

Key Quotes (4)

"And you were so anxious to speak with them that you wrote a letter to Mr. Okula the very next day, right?"
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"In front of my cat."
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"That is not your parents' home phone number at 16 Parkview Drive, is it, ma'am? ... No, it's my cell."
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"I don't think it matters what name a person uses when they're arrested. Your NYSID follows you."
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 616-1 Filed 02/24/22 Page 240 of 67
A-5658
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
February 15, 2012
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - direct Page 193
1 complete the witness.
2 (Recess)
3 THE COURT: Mr. Gair, you may continue.
4 BY MR. GAIR:
5 Q. Ms. Conrad, do you have a driver's license?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. What name is on your drivers license?
8 A. My married name, Rosa.
9 Q. So when you said you use Rosa socially, in fact you use it
10 for legal purposes too, correct?
11 A. Just on my license.
12 Q. And when you were arrested, correct?
13 A. I don't think it matters what name a person uses when
14 they're arrested. Your NYSID follows you.
15 Q. Now, would I be right in thinking that you identified with
16 the prosecutors in this case?
17 A. I don't know what you think, sir.
18 Q. Did you identify with the prosecutors in this case?
19 A. I don't know what that question means.
20 Q. Well, you wrote to the prosecutors after the trial was
21 over, correct?
22 A. Correct.
23 Q. You didn't write to any of the defense lawyers, correct?
24 A. That's correct.
25 Q. And not only did you write to the prosecutors, but you
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - direct Page 194
1 wrote to the prosecutors the very day after the verdict, isn't
2 that correct?
3 A. I'm not really sure the exact date, sir. It was late May.
4 MR. GAIR: Your Honor, I'd move the admission of PMD
5 Exhibit 7.
6 THE COURT: Any objection?
7 MR. OKULA: No objection, your Honor.
8 THE COURT: PMD Exhibit 7 is received in evidence.
9 (Exhibit PMD 7 received in evidence)
10 Q. And if you would look at Exhibit 7, tab 7, you wrote the
11 prosecutors on May 25th of 2011, is that correct?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. And that was one day after the verdict, the very day after.
14 A. I believe the verdict was the 24th. Correct.
15 Q. And you were very anxious to talk to the prosecutors,
16 weren't you?
17 A. Not just myself.
18 Q. Of course, I didn't ask you about anybody else. Were you
19 very anxious to talk to the prosecutors?
20 A. Yes. And along with the other eleven jurors, we had wanted
21 to speak with them after the verdict, when Judge Pauley had
22 come into the jury room to speak with us after.
23 Q. Without worrying about what the eleven other people wanted
24 or didn't want, were you anxious to speak with them?
25 A. Oh, sure.
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - direct Page 195
1 Q. And you were so anxious to speak with them that you wrote a
2 letter to Mr. Okula the very next day, right?
3 A. I don't know couching in those terms "so anxious" really is
4 the correct way to do it, but --
5 Q. Well, you wrote a letter to him in which you told him you
6 wished that you would have had the opportunity to talk to him,
7 correct?
8 A. Oh, that's correct, yes.
9 Q. And you would have welcomed the pleasure to do so, right?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. Now, you never made any attempt to contact any of the
12 defense lawyers and tell them you would have liked to talk to
13 them, right?
14 A. There was no reason to.
15 Q. But there was a reason to contact the prosecutor?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And not only -- now, and you wrote a letter to Mr. Okula,
18 now, this is not preprinted stationery, right, that you wrote
19 on?
20 A. No, no.
21 Q. This is just a caption that you made up for the letter,
22 correct?
23 A. Yeah, on my computer, yes.
24 Q. On your computer. And where were you sitting when you
25 wrote that letter on your computer?
C2FFDAU6 Conrad - direct Page 196
1 A. In front of my cat.
2 Q. In front of your cat. Was your cat located at 2385 South
3 Barker Avenue or at 16 Parkview Drive at the time?
4 A. Neither. It's Barker.
5 Q. Where was your cat located at the time you wrote this
6 letter, ma'am?
7 A. Next to my screen. On Barker Avenue, sir.
8 Q. Yeah. And yet you put, once again, that the return address
9 was 16 Parkview Avenue in Bronxville, New York, correct?
10 A. No, Drive.
11 Q. You put the address was 16 Parkview Drive in Bronxville,
12 correct?
13 A. Yes, mm-hmm. Yes.
14 Q. That's not where you were when you wrote the letter, right?
15 A. Correct.
16 Q. And that was not the address you were living at when you
17 wrote the letter, correct?
18 A. I still consider it both.
19 Q. And that is not the address that goes with the phone number
20 that you put right under that, is it?
21 A. Excuse me, that's my cell number.
22 Q. That's exactly right. That is not your parents' home phone
23 number at 16 Parkview Drive, is it, ma'am?
24 A. No, it's my cell.
25 Q. It's your cell number. Why don't you tell Judge Pauley why
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS (49) Page 193 - Page 196
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