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A page from the court transcript of Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE (Ghislaine Maxwell trial) filed on August 10, 2022. Defense attorney Pagliuca objects to the admission of a 'spiral bound book' of message slips under the business records exception (Rule 803.6), arguing the witness (Hesse) lacks knowledge of how they were recorded or stored. Prosecutor Moe responds that the authenticity of the book has been established by the witness and is not in dispute.
People (4)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Pagliuca | Defense Attorney |
Arguing an objection regarding the admissibility of message pads as business records.
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| Moe | Prosecutor |
Responding to the defense objection, clarifying that authenticity is not in dispute.
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| Hesse | Witness |
The witness currently under direct examination (mentioned in header).
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| Judge (Your Honor) | Judge |
Addressed by Mr. Pagliuca regarding the objection.
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. | ||
| DOJ |
Department of Justice (implied by Bates stamp DOJ-OGR-00013351)
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Likely Southern District of New York (SDNY), implied by court reporters and case number format.
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Key Quotes (4)
"I think she can say this is the message pad. So it's not an authentication objection."Source
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"She, this particular witness, is not under any particular business duty to record these other messages"Source
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"That's my objection under 801, your Honor, and I suppose 803.6"Source
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"It appears defense counsel is not disputing the authenticity of these messages within the entire book because this witness has identified the book."Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 73 of 262 1778
LC8Cmax3 Hesse - direct
LC8Cmax3 Hesse - direct
1 MR. PAGLIUCA: No, it is not. I think she can say
2 this is the message pad. So it's not an authentication
3 objection. It is, though, as to these individual slips, she
4 has no knowledge about what's contained in them, and it goes to
5 a business record foundation as in when it was made, when it
6 was recorded, how it was stored, all of those sorts of things
7 that a normal business record custodian would talk about.
8 She, this particular witness, is not under any
9 particular business duty to record these other messages and
10 doesn't have any information about how these other messages may
11 or may not have been recorded, by whom, when, where, how, all
12 of those kinds of things.
13 So, I don't think you can just say that we're going to
14 take all these messages with all this different information in
15 it and then say it's all business record, it all comes in for
16 the truth of the matter asserted.
17 That's my objection under 801, your Honor, and I
18 suppose 803.6, which is the particular subsection under which
19 it is being offered.
20 MS. MOE: Taking those in turn, it appears defense
21 counsel is not disputing the authenticity of these messages
22 within the entire book because this witness has identified the
23 book. It's a spiral bound book. It sounds like there is no
24 dispute that these are authentic.
25 So the only thing we're talking about here is a
2 this is the message pad. So it's not an authentication
3 objection. It is, though, as to these individual slips, she
4 has no knowledge about what's contained in them, and it goes to
5 a business record foundation as in when it was made, when it
6 was recorded, how it was stored, all of those sorts of things
7 that a normal business record custodian would talk about.
8 She, this particular witness, is not under any
9 particular business duty to record these other messages and
10 doesn't have any information about how these other messages may
11 or may not have been recorded, by whom, when, where, how, all
12 of those kinds of things.
13 So, I don't think you can just say that we're going to
14 take all these messages with all this different information in
15 it and then say it's all business record, it all comes in for
16 the truth of the matter asserted.
17 That's my objection under 801, your Honor, and I
18 suppose 803.6, which is the particular subsection under which
19 it is being offered.
20 MS. MOE: Taking those in turn, it appears defense
21 counsel is not disputing the authenticity of these messages
22 within the entire book because this witness has identified the
23 book. It's a spiral bound book. It sounds like there is no
24 dispute that these are authentic.
25 So the only thing we're talking about here is a
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