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This is page 40 of a court transcript (Document 782, filed Jan 15, 2025) from Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE (United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell). The witness, Rocchio (likely Dr. Lisa Rocchio), is under direct examination discussing the differences between clinical and forensic psychology roles, specifically noting that in a clinical setting, she does not verify the truth of a victim's report via external evidence like newspaper articles. She testifies that there is 'remarkable consistency' regarding grooming tactics across her clinical work, forensic work, and scientific literature.
People (2)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Rocchio | Witness / Expert |
Testifying on direct examination regarding clinical vs. forensic practices and grooming tactics. (Likely Dr. Lisa Roc...
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| Unidentified Attorney (Q) | Examiner |
Asking questions during direct examination.
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| Southern District Reporters, P.C. |
Listed in footer with phone number (212) 805-0300.
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| DOJ |
Department of Justice, implied by 'DOJ-OGR' stamp in footer.
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Timeline (2 events)
Relationships (1)
Q/A format in transcript.
Key Quotes (4)
"So in a clinical setting, it is not my role to determine whether something is or is not true."Source
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"I don't go and ask them to provide me with newspaper articles to verify whether that event happened."Source
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"There's remarkable consistency in what I see in my work over time in my forensic practice, my clinical practice and what I have been trained and what's in the literature."Source
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"So there have been a number of studies over time that have looked at the tactics, modus operandi, skill, manipulative techniques that have been used by perpetrators."Source
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 40 of 158 40
LBAGmax2 Rocchio - Direct
LBAGmax2 Rocchio - Direct
1 you assume everything a victim reports is true?
2 A. No, I do not.
3 Q. Can you explain?
4 A. So in a clinical setting, it is not my role to determine
5 whether something is or is not true. Of course, when someone
6 is telling me something, I'm using my skill and experience to
7 take that information in and also to inquire, as I communicate
8 to that individual and provide treatment. But as I mentioned
9 earlier, I don't go out and try to see, well, this person is
10 having trauma related to a motor vehicle accident or a shooting
11 on the job, I don't go and ask them to provide me with
12 newspaper articles to verify whether that event happened.
13 Q. How do the grooming that you have seen in your forensic
14 practice compare to what you have seen in your clinical
15 practice?
16 A. There's remarkable consistency in what I see in my work
17 over time in my forensic practice, my clinical practice and
18 what I have been trained and what's in the literature.
19 Q. Can you describe at a high level the scientific literature
20 upon which your opinions on grooming are based?
21 A. So there have been a number of studies over time that have
22 looked at the tactics, modus operandi, skill, manipulative
23 techniques that have been used by perpetrators. And those
24 studies have been published in peer-review journals. So there
25 are studies that have done interviews with offenders, who have
2 A. No, I do not.
3 Q. Can you explain?
4 A. So in a clinical setting, it is not my role to determine
5 whether something is or is not true. Of course, when someone
6 is telling me something, I'm using my skill and experience to
7 take that information in and also to inquire, as I communicate
8 to that individual and provide treatment. But as I mentioned
9 earlier, I don't go out and try to see, well, this person is
10 having trauma related to a motor vehicle accident or a shooting
11 on the job, I don't go and ask them to provide me with
12 newspaper articles to verify whether that event happened.
13 Q. How do the grooming that you have seen in your forensic
14 practice compare to what you have seen in your clinical
15 practice?
16 A. There's remarkable consistency in what I see in my work
17 over time in my forensic practice, my clinical practice and
18 what I have been trained and what's in the literature.
19 Q. Can you describe at a high level the scientific literature
20 upon which your opinions on grooming are based?
21 A. So there have been a number of studies over time that have
22 looked at the tactics, modus operandi, skill, manipulative
23 techniques that have been used by perpetrators. And those
24 studies have been published in peer-review journals. So there
25 are studies that have done interviews with offenders, who have
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
(212) 805-0300
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