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This document is a court transcript from February 15, 2012, for the case of United States v. Paul M. Daugerdas. It captures the direct examination of witness Catherine M. Conrad, who initially pleads the Fifth Amendment regarding her prior testimony from March 2011. After being granted use immunity by the court, Conrad admits under questioning that her previous testimony as a prospective juror contained both omissions and lies.
People (6)
| Name | Role | Context |
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| Catherine M. Conrad | Witness |
Called as a witness, sworn in, pleads the Fifth Amendment, is granted immunity, and then testifies under direct exami...
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| Ms. Sternheim | Unknown |
Addressed by the Court and asked to take a seat in the jury box during Ms. Conrad's examination.
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| Mr. Gair | Attorney |
Conducts the direct examination of the witness, Catherine M. Conrad.
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| Mr. Okula | Attorney |
Represents the government's interest, confirming they have submitted an application for an immunity order for Ms. Con...
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| Paul M. Daugerdas | Defendant |
Named in the case title "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v. PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL." and the case "United States v. Dauge...
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| Judge Pauley | Judge |
His chambers were called by Ms. Conrad on the morning of the testimony.
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Organizations (2)
| Name | Type | Context |
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| UNITED STATES OF AMERICA | government agency |
The plaintiff in the legal case against Paul M. Daugerdas, et al.
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| SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS | company |
Listed at the bottom of the transcript page, likely the court reporting service.
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Timeline (2 events)
2011-03-01
Catherine M. Conrad gave testimony under oath during voir dire for the trial of United States v. Daugerdas. She later admits this testimony contained omissions and lies.
Courtroom
2012-02-15
Catherine M. Conrad is called as a witness, granted use immunity after asserting her Fifth Amendment privilege, and questioned by Mr. Gair. She admits her prior testimony contained lies and omissions.
Courtroom
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The location of the legal proceeding and testimony.
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Mentioned as having been called by Ms. Conrad on the morning of her testimony.
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Relationships (3)
Mr. Gair is the attorney conducting the direct examination of Ms. Conrad, who is a witness.
Ms. Conrad states she is pleading the Fifth Amendment "Upon advice of my counsel".
Mr. Okula speaks on behalf of the government regarding the application for an immunity order for the witness.
Key Quotes (5)
"Upon advice of my counsel, I plead the Fifth. Thank you."Source
— Catherine M. Conrad
(Her initial response to questions about her prior testimony on March 1, 2011.)
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"There were omissions in your testimony, is that correct?"Source
— Mr. Gair
(Questioning Ms. Conrad about her previous testimony after she was granted immunity.)
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"Yes, sir."Source
— Catherine M. Conrad
(Her affirmative response when asked if there were omissions in her prior testimony.)
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"There were lies in your testimony, were there not?"Source
— Mr. Gair
(Questioning Ms. Conrad about her previous testimony.)
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"Yes, sir."Source
— Catherine M. Conrad
(Her affirmative response when asked if there were lies in her prior testimony.)
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Quote #5
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAEum Document 616 Filed 02/24/12 Page 17 of 67
A-5635
A-5635
February 15, 2012
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v.
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v.
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
Page 101
C2frdau3
1 witness, we would have otherwise called Ms. Conrad in order to
2 elicit these facts, so somebody looking back an this record
3 later on has no misimpression of a defendant calling a witness
4 who the government selectively decides to immunize. We were
5 going to call this witness ourselves. We made a decision that
6 her testimony is in the public interest; that's why we are
7 seeking the immunity. I just wanted to make that clear to your
8 Honor.
9 THE COURT: Fine. Ms. Sternheim, if you would like,
10 you may take a seat in the jury box during her examination.
11 MS. STERNHEIM: Thank you, Judge.
12 THE COURT: Let's bring out Ms. Conrad.
13 MS. STERNHEIM: Your Honor, may I take the seat
14 closest?
15 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, come on down.
16 CATHERINE M. CONRAD,
17 called as a witness by the defendant,
18 having been duly sworn, testified as follows:
19 THE COURT: Would you take a seat and state your full
20 name and spell your name slowly for the court reporter.
21 THE WITNESS: Catherine with a C-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E,
22 Conrad, C-O-N-R-A-D.
23 THE COURT: Mr. Gair, you may inquire.
24 DIRECT EXAMINATION
25 BY MR. GAIR:
C2frdau3
1 witness, we would have otherwise called Ms. Conrad in order to
2 elicit these facts, so somebody looking back an this record
3 later on has no misimpression of a defendant calling a witness
4 who the government selectively decides to immunize. We were
5 going to call this witness ourselves. We made a decision that
6 her testimony is in the public interest; that's why we are
7 seeking the immunity. I just wanted to make that clear to your
8 Honor.
9 THE COURT: Fine. Ms. Sternheim, if you would like,
10 you may take a seat in the jury box during her examination.
11 MS. STERNHEIM: Thank you, Judge.
12 THE COURT: Let's bring out Ms. Conrad.
13 MS. STERNHEIM: Your Honor, may I take the seat
14 closest?
15 THE DEFENDANT: Yes, come on down.
16 CATHERINE M. CONRAD,
17 called as a witness by the defendant,
18 having been duly sworn, testified as follows:
19 THE COURT: Would you take a seat and state your full
20 name and spell your name slowly for the court reporter.
21 THE WITNESS: Catherine with a C-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E,
22 Conrad, C-O-N-R-A-D.
23 THE COURT: Mr. Gair, you may inquire.
24 DIRECT EXAMINATION
25 BY MR. GAIR:
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1 Q. Ms. Conrad, the oath that you just took, is that the same
2 oath that you took to tell the truth in voir dire on March 1st
3 of 2011 in this case?
4 A. Upon advice of my counsel, I plead the Fifth. Thank you.
5 Q. On March 1st and 2nd of 2011, were you present in this
6 courtroom for the trial of United States v. Daugerdas?
7 A. Upon advice of my counsel, I plead the Fifth. Thank you.
8 Q. Let me ask you one more question. Is it your intention to
9 assert your Fifth Amendment privilege to any question that I
10 ask you concerning your service in United States v. Daugerdas?
11 A. Yes, sir.
12 MR. GAIR: Your Honor?
13 THE COURT: Does the government have an application at
14 this time, Mr. Okula?
15 MR. OKULA: We do, your Honor. We have submitted to
16 your Honor papers applying for an immunity order, and we
17 respectfully ask that your Honor sign that order.
18 THE COURT: Ms. Conrad, in view of your assertion of
19 the Fifth Amendment privilege, I have signed just now an order
20 granting you immunity, that is, use immunity, with respect to
21 your testimony in this proceeding.
22 You may proceed, Mr. Gair.
23 BY MR. GAIR:
24 Q. Do you understand, Ms. Conrad, that given the grant of use
25 immunity, you are required to answer appropriate questions in
C2frdau3 Conrad - direct
1 Q. Ms. Conrad, the oath that you just took, is that the same
2 oath that you took to tell the truth in voir dire on March 1st
3 of 2011 in this case?
4 A. Upon advice of my counsel, I plead the Fifth. Thank you.
5 Q. On March 1st and 2nd of 2011, were you present in this
6 courtroom for the trial of United States v. Daugerdas?
7 A. Upon advice of my counsel, I plead the Fifth. Thank you.
8 Q. Let me ask you one more question. Is it your intention to
9 assert your Fifth Amendment privilege to any question that I
10 ask you concerning your service in United States v. Daugerdas?
11 A. Yes, sir.
12 MR. GAIR: Your Honor?
13 THE COURT: Does the government have an application at
14 this time, Mr. Okula?
15 MR. OKULA: We do, your Honor. We have submitted to
16 your Honor papers applying for an immunity order, and we
17 respectfully ask that your Honor sign that order.
18 THE COURT: Ms. Conrad, in view of your assertion of
19 the Fifth Amendment privilege, I have signed just now an order
20 granting you immunity, that is, use immunity, with respect to
21 your testimony in this proceeding.
22 You may proceed, Mr. Gair.
23 BY MR. GAIR:
24 Q. Do you understand, Ms. Conrad, that given the grant of use
25 immunity, you are required to answer appropriate questions in
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1 this proceeding?
2 A. Yes, sir.
3 Q. Ms. Conrad, did you take the same oath on March 1, 2011, to
4 tell the truth in this courtroom that you took a few moments
5 ago?
6 A. I can't answer that. I'm not sure of the date.
7 Q. Apart from the date, do you recall that in connection with
8 United States v. Daugerdas, you appeared as a juror, a
9 prospective juror, correct?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 Q. At the beginning of the trial you took an oath, did you
12 not?
13 A. I'm not exactly sure when, sir.
14 Q. At some point during the voir dire, did you take an oath to
15 tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
16 A. Probably, yes, sir.
17 Q. You didn't do that, did you?
18 A. There were omissions, yes, sir.
19 Q. There were omissions in your testimony, is that correct?
20 A. Yes, sir.
21 Q. There were lies in your testimony, were there not?
22 A. Yes, sir.
23 Q. So you didn't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
24 but the truth, isn't that correct?
25 A. Yes, sir.
C2frdau3 Conrad - direct
1 this proceeding?
2 A. Yes, sir.
3 Q. Ms. Conrad, did you take the same oath on March 1, 2011, to
4 tell the truth in this courtroom that you took a few moments
5 ago?
6 A. I can't answer that. I'm not sure of the date.
7 Q. Apart from the date, do you recall that in connection with
8 United States v. Daugerdas, you appeared as a juror, a
9 prospective juror, correct?
10 A. Yes, sir.
11 Q. At the beginning of the trial you took an oath, did you
12 not?
13 A. I'm not exactly sure when, sir.
14 Q. At some point during the voir dire, did you take an oath to
15 tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
16 A. Probably, yes, sir.
17 Q. You didn't do that, did you?
18 A. There were omissions, yes, sir.
19 Q. There were omissions in your testimony, is that correct?
20 A. Yes, sir.
21 Q. There were lies in your testimony, were there not?
22 A. Yes, sir.
23 Q. So you didn't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
24 but the truth, isn't that correct?
25 A. Yes, sir.
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1 Q. Today did you call the chambers of Judge Pauley at about 10
2 minutes to 8:00 this morning?
3 A. Yes, sir.
4 Q. Did you inform the deputy clerk in Judge Pauley's chambers
5 that you would not be coming to court today?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 (Continued on next page)
C2frdau3 Conrad - direct
1 Q. Today did you call the chambers of Judge Pauley at about 10
2 minutes to 8:00 this morning?
3 A. Yes, sir.
4 Q. Did you inform the deputy clerk in Judge Pauley's chambers
5 that you would not be coming to court today?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 (Continued on next page)
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