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Summary

This document is a page from a court transcript (Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN, United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell) featuring the direct examination of a witness named Brune. The testimony centers on a past conversation between Brune and Ms. Trzaskoma regarding 'Juror No. 1,' specifically investigating whether the juror was actually a suspended attorney named Catherine Conrad. Brune testifies that they concluded it was 'inconceivable' for a lawyer to lie under oath about their identity and denies that a Westlaw report was mentioned during their conversation.

People (6)

Name Role Context
Brune Witness/Attorney
Testifying under direct examination regarding discussions about a juror's identity.
Ms. Trzaskoma Attorney/Colleague
Discussed Juror No. 1's identity with Brune; suspected the juror might be Catherine Conrad.
Catherine Conrad Suspended Attorney / Juror No. 1
The individual suspected of being the juror in question.
Juror No. 1 Juror
Subject of the discussion regarding potential identity fraud.
Judge Pauley Judge
The judge before whom the juror was sworn.
Laurie Edelstein Attorney
Described by Brune as extremely thorough; used as a reference point for why a document wasn't discussed.

Organizations (3)

Name Type Context
Southern District Reporters, P.C.
Footer information.
Westlaw
Mentioned in relation to a report found by Ms. Trzaskoma.
DOJ
Department of Justice, referenced in footer Bates stamp (DOJ-OGR).

Timeline (2 events)

2022-08-24
Filing date of the court document containing this testimony.
Southern District of New York (implied by case number and reporters)
Unknown (Past)
Conversation between Brune and Trzaskoma regarding the vetting of Juror No. 1.
Unknown

Locations (1)

Location Context
Used descriptively: 'she seems like a housewife from Bronxville'.

Relationships (2)

Brune Colleagues Ms. Trzaskoma
Discussed sensitive case details regarding a juror together.
Brune Professional Acquaintance/Colleague Laurie Edelstein
Brune speaks confidently about Edelstein's work habits and thoroughness.

Key Quotes (4)

"It would be unfathomable or inconceivable or something for a person who was in fact a lawyer to have sworn under oath that she was someone else."
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"Juror No. 1 was who she said she was."
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"What she said is that note makes me wonder if it could be the same person."
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"Laurie Edelstein is the kind of person who will always kind of say, well, show me the case, show me the document. She's extremely thorough"
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-AJN Document 646-2 Filed 08/24/22 Page 58 of 130
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C2GFDAU1 Brune - direct
1 the same problem of trying to remember what was said versus
2 what was thought, but I think what was discussed is, look, it's
3 not her. She's sworn before Judge Pauley, the note doesn't
4 change the picture and, you know, this is kind of crazy. You
5 can't start sending a private investigator out on a juror. She
6 said she's someone else, she seems like a housewife from
7 Bronxville. It would be unfathomable or inconceivable or
8 something for a person who was in fact a lawyer to have sworn
9 under oath that she was someone else. It was something where
10 we discussed it and concluded that it made no sense, and Juror
11 No. 1 was who she said she was.
12 Q. So just so I'm clear, Ms. Brune, Ms. Trzaskoma did tell you
13 in that conversation that she thought Juror No. 1 could be
14 Catherine Conrad the suspended attorney?
15 A. What she said is that note makes me wonder if it could be
16 the same person.
17 Q. And are you telling me that Ms. Trzaskoma made no mention
18 whatsoever of the Westlaw report that she had found?
19 A. I'm confident that's so, and here's why. Laurie Edelstein
20 is the kind of person who will always kind of say, well, show
21 me the case, show me the document. She's extremely thorough,
22 and if she had referenced the document in the conversation
23 that's what Ms. Edelstein would have said. So I know that
24 there was no reference to it in the conversation.
25 Q. So even as you're standing there, Ms. Brune, the thought
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
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