They spoke on the phone more than once in 1995, with Epstein initiating the contact to discuss a work trip and art career for a third person, Maria.
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This document is a court transcript from August 10, 2022, detailing the testimony of a witness named Swain. Swain recounts her first phone conversations with Jeffrey Epstein in 1995, stating that he called her to invite a woman named Maria on a work trip to Florida and subsequently discussed Maria's art career and talent with her over several calls.
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